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    I must say, the biggest shocker of this thread was learning that P1M - a fine figure in his kilts, with his mickle command of Scots' dialect, and prodigious capacity for uisge beatha - hails from these shores.

    Just goes to show there's hope for us all.

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    Jake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanook View Post
    But is he not right?

    Pity the poor schlep at the office as probably left school at the 6th form and is confronted on a daily basis by his .......
    Nanook,

    Robertson's complaint was of rudeness and insult given to one of his friends and guests at Ferintosh. He seeks an apology for this. I see it little profits us to show equal rudeness by being insulting the employee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    Robertson's complaint was of rudeness and insult given to one of his friends and guests at Ferintosh. He seeks an apology for this. I see it little profits us to show equal rudeness by being insulting the employee.
    I'm not insulting him but suggesting that the issue is not pressed to hard. He is probably quite frustrated seeing day in and day out tourists with smiles on their faces and money in their pockets. One might argue that he's got the wrong job but frankly for school leavers there are not many jobs and I suspect his chances at McDonald's to ask the question "Sir, do you want ketchup or mayo with your chips?" ran out some years ago. It clearly irks him that a foreigner owns a guest house. That the owner is flamboyant and confident enough to dash about in (expensive) highland garb is just more kerosene into the flames.
    Kilts or for that matter any traditional British clothing is considered somewhat extravagant or at least eccentric or quirky in much of Scotland and Ireland. Society, however, is diverse and tolerant of eccentrics (much more than large parts of the United States).
    Most young people wear trainers and poor Chinese made popular fashion as seen on MTV. Dressing up for girls means often a large heaping of cheap decorative cosmetics and flabby belly free "club gear" while the boys don football or gansta gear and enough alcohol in their blood to disinfect an average sized hospital ward--- not that the girls drink much less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pour1Malt
    "Mr. Matthews; 'There is, in fact, one loud-mouthed American living in Dumfries, who owns a guest house, struts around the town in his kilt and even does his shopping in it!'”
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanook View Post
    But is he not right?
    No. Robertson may have been born American, but surely he's as Scottish as Ferintosh itself.
    Don't know about the loud mouth part but I'm sure glad that he learned English for this though.

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    It's been a few hours now. None of the e-mails have bounced back, but I have not received reply yet either.

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    The same here.

    So wonder why some have been acknowledged and others have not.
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    I sent Pour1Malt's message to the original three. With a subtle hint that I will be reconsidering my vacation to Scotland. Heheh.

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    Visit Scotland staff;

    After serving a year in Baghdad, I wanted to take my family for a memorable holiday. I had been staying in London for more then a week, and only planned to visit Scotland for a couple of days. I ended up staying a week. I enjoyed Scotland so much, that I was encouraged by a friend, and fellow operator in Baghdad, to consider moving to Scotland, if only for a year. Alas, I did not, but wanted to very much.

    My brief visit to your wonderful country and the impact of your history and culture, have created a longing for a return trip. About 5 years ago, while attending a Celtic festival, I bought a kilt that I only wore for special occasions. I now own 5 kilts, and my pride is an 8 yard Operation Iraqi Freedom: PSD tartan that was registered at the Scottish Tartan Authority. My kilts have been all over the world with me. Baqhdad, Jordan, Ireland, Germany, Amsterdam, and of course, America.

    You may or may not be able to appreciate my concern, that as I am discovering a rich and unique heritage, I hear stories how members of Visit Scotland, i.e. Mr. Kerr Matthews, consider me a "Loud Mouth American", and my desire to connect to a time long forgotten is somehow considered obnoxious.

    I am sending my mother on another visit to Scotland this summer. I will not let Mr. Kerr Matthews inconsiderate and ill spoken words stop her from a repeat of the wonderful and special time she had on our last vacation. It was people like Mr. Matthews that made me leave London for a week in Scotland. Too bad you have him working for you at VisitScotland.

    It would have been considerate of you to send an apology to Mr. Robertson for the horrible things Mr. Matthews is saying while representing your company, and your country.

    With Deepest sympathy,

    Jay T. King

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    Emails sent. I think we all know that off the cuff remarks are made on occation but you have to know your audience. Im not saying it was right to say what he did but why in the wide wide world of sports would you say this to anyone at a visitation center. This guy has an I-D-10-T problem or as my father would say, "that boy is ate up with the dumbass." It just isn't using the ol noggin.
    steve

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    I had to wait until I got home to send this as an email. But it was also sent in letter form, in case it gets picked up by a spam filter:

    Dear Mr. Beattie,
    I have recently learned of a situation involving one of your employees, which you should be made aware of – and likely all ready are.

    Over the last year or so, the owner of a Dumfries guesthouse (Mr. Robertson Wellen) has been posting an online pictorial journal of the sights, experiences, and history of regional Scotland. It is to his credit that the gentleman in question does not advertise or feature his business in these photos – rather he posts of his own personal hikes to scenic overlooks, ruins, items of historical interest, local events, and distilleries to name a few. His pictures, while not that of a professional photographer, are nevertheless spectacular and capture (in my opinion) the beauty of Scotland both past and present. He is quite simply an outstanding advocate for Scottish Tourism, and as a direct result of his journals, I have begun planning a trip to Scotland.

    However, I have learned that guests of Mr. Wellen’s guesthouse were recently visiting the Dumfries branch of the VisitScotland offices. One of the guests was from the United States. A question was raised about the popularity of the kilt. One of your employees, Mr. Kerr Matthews, reportedly said something to the effect of, “The only kilts we see are on loud-mouthed Americans.”
    He apparently went on to say, “There is, in fact, one loud-mouthed American living in Dumfries, who owns a guest house, struts around the town in his kilt and even does his shopping in it!” The person Mr. Matthews referred to was, in fact, Mr. Wellen.

    I do understand that in this day and age, the kilt is considered an unusual garment. I also understand that there are many people who do not like to see the kilt being worn by anyone – especially someone who is not “Fully Scottish.”

    What I do not understand – and what I take offense to – is a representative of your company, while in his capacity as a representative, being so openly hostile about Americans in general, and specifically about one who is doing so much for Scottish Tourism. How exactly does one promote tourism, while simultaneously insulting both the tourist and those that would host them?

    It is my hope that Mr. Matthews’s behavior is not typical of your organization, and that Mr. Wellen may expect some form of apology for Mr. Matthew’s clearly unprofessional behavior.

    Additionally, it might behoove your organization to provide Mr. Matthews with some sort of instruction on the merits of reserving his personal prejudices until he is on his own time, and not representing your company.

    Thank you for your consideration in this matter.

    Sincerely,



    Kyle Kizzier

    (Address included in the letter)

    cc: Malcom Roughead - Director of Marketing
    Denise Hill - Head of International Marketing
    Ewan Colville - Marketing Manager (North America/Asia Pacific)
    Donna Black Press Manager - VisitScotland
    Elaine Murray - Member of the Scottish Parliament for Dumfries Constituency

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