Scottish Movies ?

**Jackson** · 10th January 12, 08:52 PM

I've seen several references to Youtube, and if you haven't watched this one, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMzHlkB-Yg . Shows a small Belgian boy, in a kilt, watching returning soldiers. It'll put a lump in your throut.

J

**PatG** · 11th January 12, 07:26 AM

Enlightening review of Braveheart.

"Seemingly intended as a piece of anti-English propaganda, Braveheart offers an even greater insult to Scotland by making a total pig's ear of its heritage"

von Tunzelmann also reviews Mrs Brown, Rob Roy and many other films with and without tartan in shot.

**be da veva** · 12th January 12, 08:40 AM

Best animation of a kilt I've seen so far, in the animated movie ''The Illusionist''.
Not a story about kilts, but still...

**chrisupyonder** · 12th January 12, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

That's a new one on me Chris. Is it recent? Is it available anywhere?

A Lonely Place To Die

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lonely-Place...6394624&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Lonely-Place-t...6394884&sr=8-2

I am going to get it.

Chris.

**Jack Daw** · 13th January 12, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by PatG

Enlightening review of Braveheart.

"Seemingly intended as a piece of anti-English propaganda, Braveheart offers an even greater insult to Scotland by making a total pig's ear of its heritage"

von Tunzelmann also reviews Mrs Brown, Rob Roy and many other films with and without tartan in shot.

I'm not a particular fan of Braveheart b/c it's an ego trip for Gibson. But, it's a movie, not a documentary. Being critical of it for being historically inaccurate is ridiculous. It's purpose is to entertain, not to educate. Anybody want to measure the accuracy of Shakespeare's MacBeth?!

**WVHighlander** · 13th January 12, 10:13 AM

Sorry ladies and gents if I am repeating one, but I admittily didn't read the whole thread. The new Disney Movie Brave is out in June. If you haven't seen the trailer have a peek.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEHWDA_6e3M

I will be there with a young lass, and I am threatening to go on opening day in kilt... AYE !!

**PatG** · 13th January 12, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Daw

I'm not a particular fan of Braveheart b/c it's an ego trip for Gibson. But, it's a movie, not a documentary. Being critical of it for being historically inaccurate is ridiculous. It's purpose is to entertain, not to educate. Anybody want to measure the accuracy of Shakespeare's MacBeth?!

I would agree that entertainment can't be judged as history - 300 and Inglorious Basterds come to mind, but these two movies don't pretend to be historically accurate. Without any historical pretense, Braveheart could have been a perfectly acceptable swords and barbarians movie in the style of Thirteenth Warrior or Conan. Instead it screws up history enough to fall in with the likes of U-571.

But horses for courses.

**Thomas H** · 13th January 12, 10:38 AM

Mel Gibson has said He is going to make a movie LIKE BraveHeart again ,
But this time it is going to be about Vikings YES VIKINGS

It is going to be -If they do it in the old Norse spoken word .

If He makes it -I would watch it .

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni1296435/

**Jack Daw** · 13th January 12, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by PatG

I would agree that entertainment can't be judged as history - 300 and Inglorious Basterds come to mind, but these two movies don't pretend to be historically accurate. Without any historical pretense, Braveheart could have been a perfectly acceptable swords and barbarians movie in the style of Thirteenth Warrior or Conan. Instead it screws up history enough to fall in with the likes of U-571.

But horses for courses.

What historical pretense? That would only have occurred if Gibson had sold Braveheart as a documentary. The Cromwell productions do more to screw up history b/c those are disguised as documentaries and sell the same sort of crap as fact.

**macwilkin** · 13th January 12, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Daw

What historical pretense? That would only have occurred if Gibson had sold Braveheart as a documentary. The Cromwell productions do more to screw up history b/c those are disguised as documentaries and sell the same sort of crap as fact.

You'd be surprised how many people I've met over the years take Hollywood historical movies for "gospel". I'm still fighting "Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman", "Dances With Wolves" and "The Patriot" in my classes.

A buddy of mine who worked at Ft. Smith National Historic Site has a whole bunch of stories about "True Grit" (the John Wayne version) and actually created interpretive programs that discussed what it got right and wrong. So, in one sense, perhaps it's good Hollywood screws things up (Western Arkansas and Oklahoma look nothing like the Rocky Mountains!) so history instructors and park rangers will have something to lecture against.

Of course, there are great films out there that can entertain AND educate. They're not mutually exclusive.

T.