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1st July 04, 05:40 PM
#61
Good posts Robbie I thank you for them.
Glen McGuire
A Life Lived in Fear, Is a Life Half Lived.
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1st July 04, 05:51 PM
#62
Great posts Robbie. Couldn't ask for better informational posts. Maybe Hank will put them in the articles section.
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1st July 04, 06:18 PM
#63
Excellent posts Robbie. That is quite a lot of
information. I printed it out and will use it
as a handout at some of the Highland games where I
set up a tent.
Nelson
"Every man dies. Not every man really lives"
Braveheart
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1st July 04, 06:42 PM
#64
Excellent, as always Robbie, we are honoured to have among us one with such a love of history, especially of the kilt.
I would like to save those posts for my own info in speaking about the history of the kilt in future, with your permission.
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2nd July 04, 10:20 AM
#65
WHOOPS CLANGER BOO-BOO ERROR MISTAKE
I have just realised that I said the oldest surviving example of a sewn kilt is in a Canadian museum.
It does, of course, belong to the Scottish Tartans Society and the last I heard it was on display in the Scottish Tartans Museum in Franklin, NC, which everyone except me knows is in the USA and not Canada. However, I know not whether it's still there or indeed whether this museum is still in existence.
Would I be right in saying NC stands for North Carolina?
Apologies to all again
The geographically challenged Robbie
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2nd July 04, 10:50 AM
#66
Hi Alaskan
As you will appreciate, I can only comment on the development/evolution of kilts/tartans here and the reference sources I have access to concentrate on Scotland and do not really mention developments in other countries.
However, given the number of Scots who have migrated (voluntarily or otherwise) over the centuries, it is really no great surprise to see parallel evolution from the great to the little kilt - deciding not to join 2 pieces of material together and wearing them separately rather than as one is hardly "rocket science" and it would probably be more surprising if this evolution had not occurred elsewhere too as a result of similar changes in social, economic and agricultural practices.
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2nd July 04, 12:42 PM
#67
 Originally Posted by Robbie
WHOOPS CLANGER BOO-BOO ERROR MISTAKE.....
the Scottish Tartans Museum in Franklin, NC, which everyone except me knows is in the USA and not Canada. However, I know not whether it's still there or indeed whether this museum is still in existence.
Would I be right in saying NC stands for North Carolina?
The geographically challenged Robbie
Robbie,
They are still in existence.
I visited them last year.
I also receive their news letter.
NC is the official abbreviation for North Carolina.
I'm not sure they have the oldest kilt in the world.
But they do have a few from around the years 1790 to 1800. They also have two more full outfits from the 1880's.
I am posting their link below.
http://www.scottishtartans.org/
Nelson
"Every man dies. Not every man really lives"
Braveheart
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2nd July 04, 12:45 PM
#68
Scottish Tartans Museum...
The curator of the STM is one Matthew Newsome. His personal web site has a lot of very good information about kilts:
http://www.albanach.org
T.
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2nd July 04, 03:35 PM
#69
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2nd July 04, 04:32 PM
#70
very good post, thank you.
but the fact that you say the highlanders would not be told what to do,well I think they would have done as they where told , or it is they who would have been cut in two. don't forget, in those days it was "my way or the highway" they probably had very litle choice, "do as you are told or else". they probably didn't have a union, or any rights at all, just the right to do as they are told.the free thinking workers where not as abundant as they are today.
but like I said, a very good post,I would like to see a documentary on the subject,I think it would prove to be very good viewing.
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