which bonnet

**OC Richard** · 2nd January 16, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by Lady Grey

OC Richard
Clan Mcleod pipe band Bendigo

https://www.ourcommunity.com.au/dire...sting?id=36683

Yet another new word for me, "playout".

Two peoples separated by a common language!

About Scots in the desert, I just now found this, showing very practical hats worn by The Black Watch

Far better than this!

**Jock Scot** · 2nd January 16, 06:15 AM

Amazingly the sun can, sometimes, be a problem in Scotland. It can get to be in the 80"s F ( the Scottish record is 91.2 F-----just looked it up!) which is not regarded as hot or bothersome, compared to what some of you are used to, but-----BUT-----the combination of lack of air pollution and sun can and does regularly cause serious burns to the unwary. A Panama is the go to brimmed hat for many in Scotland. Although the fore and aft/deer stalker is also an option that some choose as a daily matter of course.

Taken at the Blair Atholl Highland Games in Scotland a few years ago by Mrs Arnot, who's husband, Arnot is next to me and is a member here. A very ancient and beaten up Panama that saw the light of day on a very hot and clear day.

**carlisle401** · 2nd January 16, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

Yet another new word for me, "playout".

Two peoples separated by a common language!

About Scots in the desert, I just now found this, showing very practical hats worn by The Black Watch

Far better than this!

The bush hat in the first photo has been used since the early 1950s in the jungle and hot climates although in the early and middle times they were usually Olive Green, but still effective. During my service we were issued Combat hats (camouflaged colors and similar to a baseball cap). We had them for about three years until we were doing Balmoral duties. The Queen saw them and didn't like them, so the next day the who battalion had those hats in.

She is Comannder-In-Chief.

**sailortats** · 2nd January 16, 07:18 AM

Regarding the Barmah hats in the USA. The telephone number listed is for San Francisco Ca. in case anyone besides myself is interested in getting one. Thanks Lady Gray, I have a problem with skin cancer but up until your photo have never seen a hat that I am particularly fond of that offers protection from the sun.

**Lady Grey** · 2nd January 16, 12:10 PM

Oohhhh that will look great on you Sailortats - Crocodile Leather?

OC I've never heard of 'Playout' either.

The 'bush hat' style we call 'bucket hats' and come in a heavy plain cotton worn by school children (compulsory in all schools and must be worn when outdoors) they are also very common as business promotional items with embroidered logos. I constantly pick them up in op-shops for a few cents every few weeks, as I keep a stash on the dock at sailing as they are one of those items that get constantly lost, blow away or otherwise disappear... The Aussie equivalent of the odd sock.

**Lady Grey** · 2nd January 16, 01:17 PM

I just thought it was interesting as to the differences in hats for military & civilian.
The Slouch Hat as used by the military is fur felt and has indentations in its styling. Nice bit of history in this link.
http://www.army.gov.au/Our-history/t...The-slouch-hat
They are made by Akubra & Mountcastle. (Who also make civilian hats)
The Barmah is more of a civilian work/fashion/practical hat.

**Bruce Scott** · 2nd January 16, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

About the Barmah hats, I'd not heard of them. I have seen Scottish Aussies wearing these, which in my opinion look great with the kilt

[URL=http://s168.photobucket.com/user/pancelticpiper/media/kilts%20and%20khaki/aussiepiper_zpsc9d98f53.jpg.html]

Apologies for the poor quality of this photo, which is borrowed from the 5/7RAR ( 5/7th Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment) Pipes and Drums site:

canberra.jpg

The caption reads: "Slouch Hats and Kilts, Thankfully this joke was short lived!"
http://www.angelfire.com/nt/57pipesa...s/history.html

**Lady Grey** · 2nd January 16, 03:52 PM

Bruce, I've seen that photo & love it.
Having seen Downunders kilt in person I think the green slouch looks great with the Tartan.
Most other photos of the pipe band show Glengarry's
Whoever wrote the caption was not a person of style and substance like xmarkers!

**Lady Grey** · 2nd January 16, 04:07 PM

Coming back to the original topic Balmoral or Glengarry?
Here is my experiment in a Balmoral to go with the Australian Tartan.

I chose gum leaf green in the dicing instead of black as per the tartan threads as I thought it would be to harsh with the Desert colours (shhhh I know it's very orange but it is what it is)
What colour toorie?

**Leprechaun 91** · 3rd January 16, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

Perhaps the most smart-looking is this sort of hat, which here in the USA we call the "Montana Peak". It has a long history with military, police, and Boy Scout use here in North America- our soldiers went off to war in 1917 wearing them, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police wear them, as do many police agencies in the USA.

"Smoky The Bear Hats" or "Drill instructor hats" - Not sure I could wear one comfortably as they are so non-standard but they are smart looking and certainly protect from the sun. - Perhaps if I were in a more "Uniform" kit I might be more comfortable wearing one.