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23rd June 07, 10:58 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by davedove
I'm kind of the same. Although I will wear the MacIan tartan when I dress up (the red background just makes such a statement), I tend to wear the US Army tartan more than others. For one, it's a more subdued color. Plus, as I tell people, it's the only "clan" to which I have ever actually sworn loyalty. 
Hooaa!!
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12th June 07, 02:46 PM
#2
T.
You're right. I inadvertantly played devils advocate to make my point (without realizing it), . Since I have less than 30 posts, I felt it would be more substantial coming from someone more knowledgable and experienced. But, what I don't understand is why do people frown on others wearing their clan tartan and freely give of their district or regiment? Is it tradition vs history?
My boss is kicking me out because the office is locking up. I want to learn more on this subject. I can't give enough praise to X Marks, the support gave me courage to wear a kilt. For that I say thank you.
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12th June 07, 02:49 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by O'Cathain
T.
You're right. I inadvertantly played devils advocate to make my point (without realizing it),  . Since I have less than 30 posts, I felt it would be more substantial coming from someone more knowledgable and experienced. But, what I don't understand is why do people frown on others wearing their clan tartan and freely give of their district or regiment? Is it tradition vs history?
My boss is kicking me out because the office is locking up. I want to learn more on this subject. I can't give enough praise to X Marks, the support gave me courage to wear a kilt. For that I say thank you.
Again, I think folks are assuming because someone only wears tartans they have an association with, they are somehow saying that those who wear tartans without that connection are somehow in the wrong. That's not the case at all.
For example, I would not wear a California tartan, because I don't have a connection to the state, but I would wear the Arizona, because my Dad's family are from there. I like the personal connection, but again, that's just me.
Read Matt's article about district tartans. That will help explain a lot.
Regimental tartans are another matter entirely, INMHO. 
T.
Last edited by macwilkin; 12th June 07 at 07:08 PM.
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13th June 07, 05:56 AM
#4
The write up is very enlightening and IMO would be good to have placed in a sticky thread or someplace on Xmarks to help newbies find out more about tartan choice. Also while reading the piece, I realized that I do have a tartan I can wear for a better reason then I like the colors. My wife's family is from County Galway, Ireland which does have a district/county tartan.
I think I just made my decision on what tartan my first real tank will be made from.
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13th June 07, 06:52 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by beloitpiper
Don't parade around in somebody else's colors!
Todd,
This is what I was basing my opinion on and a few other comments like it.
But after reading and rereading this thread, I'm more enlightened and have come to the realization that the thread is more about knowledge and respect for the tartan you are choosing to wear. I think those of us who do pick a tartan because they like the colors do the research and maybe find some sort of connection after the fact. IMO, I think it's okay to pick a tartan based on the colors. Insted of judging someone because they don't know about the tartan they are wearing, educate them and they may find out they have a connection to it. Isn't educating and informing a big part of X Marks purpose?
There is a wide spectrum of kilt wearers on X Marks, from all walks of life. The common thing we have is the kilt.
Steve
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13th June 07, 07:03 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by O'Cathain
Todd,
This is what I was basing my opinion on and a few other comments like it.
But after reading and rereading this thread, I'm more enlightened and have come to the realization that the thread is more about knowledge and respect for the tartan you are choosing to wear. I think those of us who do pick a tartan because they like the colors do the research and maybe find some sort of connection after the fact. IMO, I think it's okay to pick a tartan based on the colors. Insted of judging someone because they don't know about the tartan they are wearing, educate them and they may find out they have a connection to it. Isn't educating and informing a big part of X Marks purpose?
There is a wide spectrum of kilt wearers on X Marks, from all walks of life. The common thing we have is the kilt.
Steve
Steve,
I would agree with that; education is always a good thing.
T.
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13th June 07, 07:12 AM
#7
Can we enumerate the ways in which one has a connection to a tartan?
Best
AA
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13th June 07, 07:13 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by auld argonian
Can we enumerate the ways in which one has a connection to a tartan?
Best
AA
The old saying my MIL uses in regards to "Who is a Cajun?" would be an appropriate answer:
"By the blood, by the ring and by the back door."

T.
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13th June 07, 05:38 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by auld argonian
Can we enumerate the ways in which one has a connection to a tartan?
Best
AA
This could be fun and pokes my sense of humor.
Tartan:
Brown, Mum, Grandad, GGdad, all Browns
MacMillan, Brown is a sept of the MacMillan Clan
Lamont, Also claims the Browns
Lochaber District, The Browns are asscoiated with the MacMillans in that area originally.
Campbell By marriage
US Army I am a veteran
German National Dad's side
Dutch National Gmum's side
Irish National Dad's side again
Welsh National Wife's GGdad
Holyrood Grandad Walter Brown was a Deacon in the church. Holyrood Abby has as one of the founders a Walterus Brown. (coincidence? I think not! )
It's easy to find tartans to enjoy!
Personally I like tartans I can associate with.(Even if I have to play it fast and loose)
If someone wants to wear a tartan because they enjoy the look, I'd say go for it. (But I would at a minimum expect the wearer to be able to name the tartan.)
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13th June 07, 07:11 AM
#10
Tartan 'Tradition' reminds me of a sign that appeared at a well-known University;
"There is a tradition here that Students never walk on the front lawn;
This tradition began as of 9.oo am this morning".
This is not really a life & death situation; We Celts will not disappear because the Sassenach now wears "our" tartan. Spread the 'Gospel' I reckon. The more Kilts the more comfort for men in general.
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