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17th April 08, 03:49 PM
#71
 Originally Posted by Tommie
To each his own but I would never use that response,and I have noticed several members say that.
You may be opening yourself up to something that might turn ugly real quick.
Why throw fuel on a fire thats not yet lit.
I agree. With the mentality of an increasing number of people today being witty may end you up with a visit to the E.R. or worse! My Grandfather imparted a couple of tidbits of very useful information to me when I was younger, and I follow them to this day.
#1- No matter how tough tough you think you are there is always somebody tougher.
#2- (If it comes down to not being able to avoid a fight, there is no such thing as a good clean fight.) There are no rules in fighting you are fighting to win, not lose.
Last edited by J.B. Simpson; 17th April 08 at 09:17 PM.
Bidh cron duine cho mòr ri beinn mun lèir dha fhèin e. (A man's fault will be as big as a mountain before he sees it.)
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17th April 08, 05:05 PM
#72
Wow, Thanks for remembering me, Ted. That was nice.
 Originally Posted by Ryan Ross
Woah... Thanks for passing that along, Ted! I have to say: I don't think I could pull off the long kilt look, but Racer96 certainly can! Being that he's japanese, it really does give a hakama-like effect that's quite interesting.
Thanks Ryan. Really, I've come to find that it's all a matter of confidence. I feel like I look GOOD when I'm wearing a kilt. No matter it's length, material, color, or tartan. Because of that, I think that people don't usually try to insult me. (At least, not anymore than they would if I wasn't wearing a kilt , as they say, some people are idiots, and nothing can stop them )
Mike
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17th April 08, 05:15 PM
#73
 Originally Posted by Racer96
Thanks Ryan. Really, I've come to find that it's all a matter of confidence. I feel like I look GOOD when I'm wearing a kilt. No matter it's length, material, color, or tartan. Because of that, I think that people don't usually try to insult me. (At least, not anymore than they would if I wasn't wearing a kilt  , as they say, some people are idiots, and nothing can stop them )
Mike
Aye, that's the key. If you walk around like the world's your oyster, I find that other people start to think that the world is your oyster, aswell!
As a side note, I've seen an antique hakama that was made of fabric with a tartan-like design (it looked a bit like Royal Stuart, as I recall). I'm wondering if you've come across this before?
Personally, I found it pretty cool... wish I had a pair.
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17th April 08, 05:59 PM
#74
i think if we felt insulted we would be missing out on a lot of things.
1. you chose to wear the kilt, you know what can happen.
2. if you bought, then you should wear it with pride- no matter what!
3. be cool with it
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
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17th April 08, 07:09 PM
#75
Literally adding fuel to the fire - fun.
Metaphorically doing so - not the best of ideas.
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18th April 08, 08:00 AM
#76
 Originally Posted by emolas
I always treat all comments as a compliment and thank them for noticing. As mentioned before, this deflates an intended insult and makes the insulter look foolish.
At an assertiveness course I once went on this technique was mentioned, and it is known as "snowing". Basically, insults don't work if you don't allow yourself to be insulted. Even when the insulter tries to ramp up the insult to get a reaction just stay cool and ride the wave. Most often these bozos get fed up or frustrated and move on to an easier target.
BTW I don't ever get offended by my kilts getting called skirts. To loosely paraphrase Shakespeare: What's in a name? - a kilt by any other name would still look great!
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18th April 08, 08:38 AM
#77
When I worked with foster children, most of whom had behavioral problems, I often told them that it takes two people to have a fight (and there were LOTS of fights ).
The same thing goes here. Someone can say something intended to be insulting, but I believe I have a choice about whether or not to feel insulted (of course, some things are more likely to push my buttons than others - call it a higher predisposition to being insulted by some topics). But nonetheless . . . I don't have to feel insulted unless I decide that person has enough influence to do so. Semantics, perhaps . . . but that's how I see it.
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18th April 08, 09:00 AM
#78
So often this comment is meant in a very positive way.
Usually, the comment is made by someone interrupting their day to give it. "Thank You" works well and I keep on truckin' with what I'm up to.
If the comment is made by someone fishing for the correct term, or by someone I'm gonna be around for a while (new coworker, etc.) it doesn't hurt to take a moment and say, "Thank you, this type of skirt is called a kilt."
If its some fool knocking the chip off my shoulder for his own entertainment then I have a whole lot of fast decisions to make. If I'm STUPID enough to engage the fool...STUPID enought to match my wit with someone who won't "get it" anyway because he's a fool...well...its me that's made the decision to waste my time trying to teach the pig to sing.
I have found that the longer I wear kilts the less "hassle" I get. Believe it is due to how I carry myself when kilted and because the folks around town have gotten used to seeing me kilted. When I'm traveling it all falls back on how I carry myself.
God knows I'm way too olde to fight over it. Visions of trying to explain to police that the fight started when he called my kilt a skirt....
Also have had success with giving the insulter a very confused look and saying, "Huh?? I don't get it."
Or, "Thank you, I got tired of dressing like a woman, pants are so restrictive."
Somewhere there's a book lurking...along the lines of Thompson's So You're Going to Wear the Kilt...only with the things strangers are going to say to you and suggestions for responses based on the stranger's attitude.
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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18th April 08, 12:34 PM
#79
 Originally Posted by Tommie
To each his own but I would never use that response,and I have noticed several members say that.
You may be opening yourself up to something that might turn ugly real quick.
Why throw fuel on a fire thats not yet lit.
Well, I would say it in jest. Answer a smart-*** remark with one in my opinion. ;) Basically, for shits and giggles. It wouldn't be meant to start anything, however, I can see how something could escalate. But in that case it would appear that the original smart *** would've been looking for a fight to begin with. Most people would laugh at the response. ;)
 Originally Posted by J.B. Simpson
I agree. With the mentality of an increasing number of people today being witty may end you up with a visit to the E.R. or worse! My Grandfather imparted a couple of tidbits of very useful information to me when I was younger, and I follow them to this day.
#1- No matter how tough tough you think you are there is always somebody tougher.
#2- (If it comes down to not being able to avoid a fight, there is no such thing as a good clean fight.) There are no rules in fighting you are fighting to win, not lose.
#1, absolutely true.
#2 also true, however, a simple knock down and drag em out fight usually ends when the first bloke hits the ground. That being said, people can get carried away easily.
In the end, I would always respond in jest. The jammie response is a good one, as is a simple "thank you". I just have a tendency to be a little more sarcastic. To each their own.
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18th April 08, 01:31 PM
#80
 Originally Posted by J.B. Simpson
I agree. With the mentality of an increasing number of people today being witty may end you up with a visit to the E.R. or worse! My Grandfather imparted a couple of tidbits of very useful information to me when I was younger, and I follow them to this day.
#1- No matter how tough tough you think you are there is always somebody tougher.
#2- (If it comes down to not being able to avoid a fight, there is no such thing as a good clean fight.) There are no rules in fighting you are fighting to win, not lose.
 Originally Posted by Galb
#2 also true, however, a simple knock down and drag em out fight usually ends when the first bloke hits the ground. That being said, people can get carried away easily.
My thoughts regarding #2... No one fights honorably anymore. There was a time, not to long ago, when it was enough just to fight... win our lose, you had your honor...
I've seen way too many fights at high schools, and at punk shows, where the combatants fight to destroy... they stop just shy of fighting to kill.
Far too often, the loser in a fight comes back with friends, or a weapon, or friends with weapons...
There's being witty, and then there's being a prick and trying to pass it off as being witty...
Don't try to make jerks or morons look stupid. Don't try to put them in their place... You're only inviting problems, and if you can't avoid physical violence, you've already lost the fight.
As my grandfather used to say... If you can't say anything nice then shut the hell up and go home.
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