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22nd January 09, 09:36 AM
#1
Asking for advice,listening,considering it and then choosing to ignore it is everyone's right. What is rather tiresome,sometimes here, is the way the advice is asked for, given, and if it is not what the enquirer is wanting to hear there is this tirade that flies about,containing the words, traditionalists, kilt police, rights,I will wear what I want ,where and when I choose, non conforming,this is the USA we can do what we like, and on it goes.Ho hum.
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22nd January 09, 09:49 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Asking for advice,listening,considering it and then choosing to ignore it is everyone's right. What is rather tiresome,sometimes here, is the way the advice is asked for, given, and if it is not what the enquirer is wanting to hear there is this tirade that flies about,containing the words, traditionalists, kilt police, rights,I will wear what I want ,where and when I choose, non conforming,this is the USA we can do what we like, and on it goes.Ho hum.
HEAR, HEAR! 
Todd
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22nd January 09, 09:53 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Asking for advice,listening,considering it and then choosing to ignore it is everyone's right. What is rather tiresome,sometimes here, is the way the advice is asked for, given, and if it is not what the enquirer is wanting to hear there is this tirade that flies about,containing the words, traditionalists, kilt police, rights,I will wear what,where and when I choose, non conforming,this is the USA we can do what we like, and on it goes.Ho hum.
Jock,
If you don't mind may I use us and my tweed hat as an example of a situation where advice was sought given, considered, and decided against?
To All,
I recently purchased a very nice wool hat by Kangol and wrote a thread about it here:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/a...x.html?t=42533
Now I value Jock Scot's opinion highly and really wanted his feedback on my new chapeau.
From a traditional standpoint, from a Scot, who lives in the actual highlands of Scotland, who has grown up around highland attire...
I missed the mark!
Now I was a little disappointed that my new purchase wasn't traditional.
However I was very grateful for the honest feedback and told Jock so.
Now this hat is the most comfortable I have ever owned. Looking at myself in the mirror I liked the look*.
I accept that it wasn't a traditional look but decided that I would wear it anyone because it was a look I liked (and thus began a string of jokes regarding my hat between Jock Scot, myself. and others)
I asked for advice, I received it, and based on that information I made a choice.
No disrespect was given to Jock Scot and I was thankful for knowing a little more than I did the day before.
With this information my next hat purchase will likely be more traditional. (I just saw this past weekend that Kangol makes a modern version of the classic deerstalker! It is on my wish list)
There is a happy medium to be found in highland attire that is respectful for tradition but allows individuality.
The key is both knowledge and creativity
Cheers All

Jamie
* If it was good enough for Sir Sean Connery as Indiana Jones' Dad...
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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22nd January 09, 10:22 AM
#4
No worries Jamie. 
No about this hat of yours! I am breeding a team of super hat eating Scottish moths and once I have them fit enough to nip across the Atlantic and then be able to read a map to, er, um, er California, then expect the end of THAT hat.
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22nd January 09, 10:38 AM
#5
Rules and Freedom
True freedom is informed action while accepting responsibility for said action, i.e the "Hat" issue with Panache and Jock Scot. Without knowing what rules we are bending, breaking, or heaving into history's dumpster we are not acting as free men but practicing uninformed folly and will reap the rewards of a fool. Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite, but you must know who she is and why she is chapped with your actions.
Weasel
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22nd January 09, 10:51 AM
#6
Rules
As has been stated earlier in this thread, it appears that what we are talking about maybe closer to guidelines or conventions, perhaps even standards if you will. As such they are simply in place to show us how far or how near our mode of dress relates to said standard. IMHO the kilt is very much a modern garment, for certainly when kilted it is not my intent to convince onlookers that I just stepped out of the 18th century. I am happy to leave that to the Ren-Fairs, re-enactors, and the Halloween constumers. Whether it's a traditional kilt or a utilikilt or anything in between, I wear what I think I look good in, and invite others to do the same.
Respectfully,
David
“If you want people to speak kindly after you’re gone, speak kindly while you’re alive.”
Bob Dylan
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22nd January 09, 10:43 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
No worries Jamie.
 No about this hat of yours!  I am breeding a team of super hat eating Scottish moths and once I have them fit enough to nip across the Atlantic and then be able to read a map to, er, um, er California, then expect the end of THAT hat. 
Rubber is safe, right? I mean those little buggers won't touch my sporran.
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22nd January 09, 10:47 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by ccga3359
Rubber is safe, right? I mean those little buggers won't touch my sporran.
Grant,
Even insect life have some taste.
They, like everyone else are not going to go anywhere near your sporran!
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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22nd January 09, 10:54 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by ccga3359
Rubber is safe, right? I mean those little buggers won't touch my sporran.
Now then! How could I forget THE sporran? I could do the kilt wearing world a service-------just think, maybe a medal, a new kilt, new roof, definitely a case of scotch-----this needs serious thought! Now where is it you live?
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22nd January 09, 11:22 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Asking for advice,listening,considering it and then choosing to ignore it is everyone's right. What is rather tiresome,sometimes here, is the way the advice is asked for, given, and if it is not what the enquirer is wanting to hear there is this tirade that flies about,containing the words, traditionalists, kilt police, rights,I will wear what I want ,where and when I choose, non conforming,this is the USA we can do what we like, and on it goes.Ho hum.
I have absolutely no disagreement with you here. We can all agree or disagree on any issue - but this should be done respectfully.
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