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    Pinstriped kilts? Oh my!

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    I'm with the crowd that says Utilikilts and the like are not kilts. I don't begrudge anyone the decision to wear one, though. To each, his own.

    Box pleated kilts always remind me of my daughter's cheerleading skirt.
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    What is a kilt?

    Main Entry:2kilt
    Function:noun
    Date:circa 1730
    1 : a knee-length pleated skirt usually of tartan worn by men in Scotland and by Scottish regiments in the British armies
    2 : a garment that resembles a Scottish kilt


    It follows that if the definition includes the term "resembles" then all the above are kilts and the difference is in the eye of the beholder.

    Of course we are all wearing skirts, so what? If the gentleman whose comments started this thread are weighed, he might have been putting out that unless "It's a bona-fide real thing" he would not want it, as a way around wearing a skirt.

    Yesterday, I was out at an Indian Restraint and was approached by an elderly Asian woman who ask what the occasion was, when I responded "no occasion I just like wearing kilts" She smiled a real big smile, patted me on the shoulder and said "Good for you, it takes courage to do what you believe in" loud enough that most of the restaurant heard her; as I walked up to pay the bill, everybody smiled and a couple tables gave me the thumbs up.

    It does take a confidence to wear a kilt, any kind of kilt; even if it is just a pleated skirt.ith:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob C. View Post
    I'm with the crowd that says Utilikilts and the like are not kilts. I don't begrudge anyone the decision to wear one, though. To each, his own.

    Box pleated kilts always remind me of my daughter's cheerleading skirt.
    Hardly. There's no comparison between a cheerleader's skirt and a box-pleated kilt.

    Besides, would you have the guts to say that to Pipe Sgt. Kenneth Mackay of the 79th?

    http://www.electricscotland.com/webc...ighlanders.jpg

    Perhaps Boney's men called them "cheerleader skirts" as well.

    T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroosterB1 View Post
    Main Entry:2kilt
    Function:noun
    Date:circa 1730
    1 : a knee-length pleated skirt usually of tartan worn by men in Scotland and by Scottish regiments in the British armies
    2 : a garment that resembles a Scottish kilt


    It follows that if the definition includes the term "resembles" then all the above are kilts and the difference is in the eye of the beholder.

    Of course we are all wearing skirts, so what? If the gentleman whose comments started this thread are weighed, he might have been putting out that unless "It's a bona-fide real thing" he would not want it, as a way around wearing a skirt.

    Yesterday, I was out at an Indian Restraint and was approached by an elderly Asian woman who ask what the occasion was, when I responded "no occasion I just like wearing kilts" She smiled a real big smile, patted me on the shoulder and said "Good for you, it takes courage to do what you believe in" loud enough that most of the restaurant heard her; as I walked up to pay the bill, everybody smiled and a couple tables gave me the thumbs up.

    It does take a confidence to wear a kilt, any kind of kilt; even if it is just a pleated skirt.ith:

    I knew I liked you for a reason! That actually reminds me of a conversation I had with a Mexican lady at the grocery the other day. I was in line, and this little girl said the usual "Mommy, that guys wearing a skirt!" I was wearing my Amerikilt, so I turned around told her what it actually was, at the same her mommy was correcting her. Her mother, a woman with a fairly think Mexican accent, recognized it as a kilt, and asked me about it, saying that she's used to seeing them in plaid. So I told her about it. She said that it seemed like a wonderful idea- it shows respect for my roots, while showing that I have integrated with modern American society.
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    Is it too much to ask that those people who do not care for modern kilts simply refrain from wearing them? It's my understanding that Utilikilts and the like are accepted within the family of modern men's kilts on X-Marks, otherwise we wouldn't have years of discussions about them, and modern kilt makers wouldn't be allowed to be forum sponsors.

    I own and wear both traditionally-styled and modern kilts, and have seen fashions associated with both that I would never personally wear, but I don't go around posting that I think people are wrong for doing so. (And yes, when you say someone's kilt - isn't, it seems to me that you are publicly passing judgment.)

    More often than not these threads just seem to provide some members with the excuse to air their fashion prejudices (and for the unwary to expose their ignorance).

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    Yesterday I had a person question if a kilt is really a kilt if it isn't a 'great kilt' but I replied that they were like that for a while, but it didn't go so well during the industrial revolution, for the same reasons you don't see a lot of factory workers wearing ties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunscot View Post
    Hardly. There's no comparison between a cheerleader's skirt and a box-pleated kilt.

    Besides, would you have the guts to say that to Pipe Sgt. Kenneth Mackay of the 79th?

    http://www.electricscotland.com/webc...ighlanders.jpg

    Perhaps Boney's men called them "cheerleader skirts" as well.

    T.
    Wrong, Todd. Except for color and a bit of length, there's not a lot of difference between box pleated kilts and my daughter's box pleated cheerleader skirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob C. View Post
    Wrong, Todd. Except for color and a bit of length, there's not a lot of difference between box pleated kilts and my daughter's box pleated cheerleader skirt.
    Sorry, but I don't see it. Cheerleader skirts are usually pleated all the way around, are they not? If so, then there is no comparison.

    I can't say I've ever seen any cheerleaders wearing skits with a front apron.

    (no comedians, please)

    T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunscot View Post
    ...I can't say I've ever seen any cheerleaders wearing skits with a front apron.
    If they are an XMTS Cheerleader they certainly do!







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