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28th June 12, 06:04 AM
#81
 Originally Posted by MacSpadger
I have no idea why, she doesn't sound Irish to me in the slightest. She is well known over here as being from Glasgow. But, as I've said before, I am from the North East of Scotland and have been asked if I am Irish by Americans many times. Funnily enough when I have said no, sometimes the next question is, "Are you Australian, then?".
I have noticed a strange kind of generic accent in the USA, they have started calling it the "Cardiac Celt" accent over here. Groups such as the Dropkick Murphys use it, it sounds like a mix of Australian, Canadian, Irish and Scottish, while at the same time sounding like neither. I am wondering if it might be styled after bands such as The Pogues. I was in a band in the 80's that played with the Pogues, they were neighbours and we knew them well. They were English boys from Camden, London until they adopted a sort of Cockney/Irish singing accent before going to the USA and doing well for themselves as an "Irish" band, despite not sounding that Irish. Shane went to a very expensive school in London that produced the likes of Charles Watson-Wentworth, 2nd Marquis of Rockingham, William Henry Cavendish-Bentinck, 3rd Duke of Portland and Lord Neuberger of Abbotsbury, I'm sure he didn't pick up any Irishness there. He is a very nice guy, by the way.
But, it's probably all a matter of perception, there are many people here who can't tell USA and Canadian accents apart, never mind the different states.
I have to say that I think Pixar had done well in using several genuine Scottish actors. Hollywood has inflicted many dire "Scotch" accents on the world. I'd rather that films were made like the 90's version of Rob Roy, where Liam Neeson just used his natural Irish accent, no attempt at a Scottish one, claiming no-one in Holywood would know the difference. After all, Sean Connery played the Arab brigand Mulai Ahmed er Raisuni in tones of pure Embra' Fountainbridge in The Wind & The Lion without much complaint from the Arab world.
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Indeed, Kelly Macdonald hails from Glasgow and has a beautiful Glaswegian accent! The Glasgow Patter is a far cry from an Irish accent to my ears, but I suppose it's a fairly subjective topic. Some of my mother's family hail from Paisley in Renfrewshire - just a hop, skip, and jump away from Glasgow's city centre. I have always enjoyed spending time in the greater Glasgow area and the Glaswegians are always quite hospitable and friendly.
Cheers,
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28th June 12, 09:45 AM
#82
 Originally Posted by MacSpadger
Hollywood has inflicted many dire "Scotch" accents on the world. I'd rather that films were made like the 90's version of Rob Roy, where Liam Neeson just used his natural Irish accent, no attempt at a Scottish one, claiming no-one in Holywood would know the difference. After all, Sean Connery played the Arab brigand Mulai Ahmed er Raisuni in tones of pure Embra' Fountainbridge in The Wind & The Lion without much complaint from the Arab world.
It doesn't just happen to you Brits. I can't tell you the number of times Hollywood has really messed up "Southern" accents. There are a minimum of 5 major accent groups in my home state of North Carolina, to say nothing of the differences in the "Deep South". The worst was in some big blockbuster movie (can't remember which one now) where this lawyer was supposed to be from Charlotte NC and had a Mississippi or Louisiana accent (think the distance between Aberdeen and London and all the different accents in between).
Kenneth Mansfield
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2nd July 12, 10:48 AM
#83
There are some Glasgow accents that sound a bit like like Ulster accents.
Kelly Macdonald's is not one of them.
Emma Thompson did a cracking Scottish accent - ranging from polite Edinburgh to deepest Glesga.
Someone - I suspect the Big Yin - got them to put in the line "Jings, crivens and help ma boab". A cinematic first?
Great movie, my favorite Pixar flick since Finding Nemo.
Daft Wullie, ye do hae the brains o’ a beetle, an’ I’ll fight any scunner who says different!
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2nd July 12, 11:03 AM
#84
None of the accents sounded Irish to me, but the harp, tin whistles, bodhrans, and uilleann pipes on the soundtrack sure did.
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4th July 12, 08:57 PM
#85
All planets have a north. Doctor Who 1st ep 1st season of new episodes
Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. From the note books of Lazurus Long aka: Woodrow Wilson Smith
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4th July 12, 09:23 PM
#86
I am beleiving the kilt to be a garment.
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4th July 12, 10:22 PM
#87
 Originally Posted by BJay
I am beleiving the kilt to be a garment.
I was refering to northern accents.
Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. From the note books of Lazurus Long aka: Woodrow Wilson Smith
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6th July 12, 07:51 AM
#88
 Originally Posted by ctbuchanan
Heh, I believe I predicted something like this would happen, although I didn't know it would be Kelly MacDonald it would happen to.
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8th July 12, 11:36 PM
#89
Ha, I think the kilt trailer was made especially for me. I'm completely in love with the movie after seeing it two times.
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