MOD Cantle Newly Bagged

[12stones]

Late last year I came upon a leopard coat from the 1910s and was asked to use some to rebag this MOD cantle. The owner also wanted some tassels to swing as well. I finished this a few months ago, but hadn’t shared it here. I’m very pleased with it, and the owner absolutely loves the end result.

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[figheadair]

Late last year I came upon a leopard coat from the 1910s and was asked to use some to rebag this MOD cantle. The owner also wanted some tassels to swing as well. I finished this a few months ago, but hadn’t shared it here. I’m very pleased with it, and the owner absolutely loves the end result.

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Very nice. I have one with Ocelot fur. One has to be careful where one wears them tough.

[Troglodyte]

Late last year I came upon a leopard coat from the 1910s and was asked to use some to rebag this MOD cantle. The owner also wanted some tassels to swing as well. I finished this a few months ago, but hadn’t shared it here. I’m very pleased with it, and the owner absolutely loves the end result.

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Now that's a thing of beauty..!

When re-bagging these hinged MoD cantles, I find I have to be careful to limit the thickness of the leather where it mounts around the internal bosses, and to make the holes the bosses pass through a slightly larger diameter than seems instinctive, so that the snap-fasteners can 'bite' sufficiently.

Do you have the same concerns using fur?

The snap-fasteners, I find, have the irritating habit of springing-off the bosses, so my solution is to use C-type circlips - which are a great success.

But the problem of the leather/fur thicknes remains, and it's a trial to get the clips into place without harming the lining.

Incidentally, on the genuine 18th century sporrans with this kind of hinged cantle that I have been fortunate enough to handle and examime in detail, the side tassels are more than simple decoration. The braided cord suspending the tassel takes a specific in-out lacing route that includes a loop over the side boss of the hinge, in addition to the gusset.

The intention, it seems, is to give added security to the sides as internal divisions or compartments, reinforced with wire hoops, are included in these old sporrans. A novel idea that could be easily revived, I think.

Perhaps in these modern 'enlightened' days, we should reclassify vintage furs as 'faux', as in faux-moderne, to save kilties from the paint-hurling brigade. I once heard the snide comment (not directed at me, fortunately) 'Wear it with pride: an animal died...'

So you never know...

[12stones]

Now that's a thing of beauty..!

When re-bagging these hinged MoD cantles, I find I have to be careful to limit the thickness of the leather where it mounts around the internal bosses, and to make the holes the bosses pass through a slightly larger diameter than seems instinctive, so that the snap-fasteners can 'bite' sufficiently.

Do you have the same concerns using fur?

The snap-fasteners, I find, have the irritating habit of springing-off the bosses, so my solution is to use C-type circlips - which are a great success.

But the problem of the leather/fur thicknes remains, and it's a trial to get the clips into place without harming the lining.

Thank you. Yes, it's definitely a concern with fur. Especially this because I had to reinforce the hide with another piece of leather, so skiving and ensuring that the fasteners stay in place was a challenge. Also, it can have a tendency to interfere with the clasp making opening it difficult if not done well. I would love to see how you use the C-type clips you mentioned.

Incidentally, on the genuine 18th century sporrans with this kind of hinged cantle that I have been fortunate enough to handle and examime in detail, the side tassels are more than simple decoration. The braided cord suspending the tassel takes a specific in-out lacing route that includes a loop over the side boss of the hinge, in addition to the gusset.

The intention, it seems, is to give added security to the sides as internal divisions or compartments, reinforced with wire hoops, are included in these old sporrans. A novel idea that could be easily revived, I think.

Another thing I would love to see. Do you happen to have any pictures from that examination?

Perhaps in these modern 'enlightened' days, we should reclassify vintage furs as 'faux', as in faux-moderne, to save kilties from the paint-hurling brigade. I once heard the snide comment (not directed at me, fortunately) 'Wear it with pride: and animal died...'

So you never know...

I definitely understand where you're coming from here.

[12stones]

Very nice. I have one with Ocelot fur. One has to be careful where one wears them tough.

I just obtained my own MOD cantle and will be making 3 interchangeable bags for myself: 1 leopard, 1 ocelot, and 1 serval. I love the snap boss/fastener mechanism on these cantles for that ease of change.

[Troglodyte]

I would love to see how you use the C-type clips you mentioned.

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Here's the MoD original, a Margaret Mrrison re-bagging with replacement snaps on a four-stud cantle, and my own use of C-type circlips on a five-stud version - which are a bit more discrete in their fitting, but a more of a bother to get on and off.

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Here's a 'real' hinged cantle (not the sporran I mentioned, as those picture are evading me at the moment) but you can see how sophisticated the attachment was. The outer bag appears to be rivetted onto the studs, and the liner placed so it covers the 'works' and keeps the bag neat.

The division I mentioned is a vertical panel inside the sporran bag, attached to the gusset all around the edge, with the top edge turned and sewn to enclose a wire hoop (to hold the shape and prevent curling) with the ends of the wire wrapped around the inner portion of the side bosses of the hinge, allowing it to pivot or swing forward and back when accessing either of the two compartments of the sporran. Simple, but clever.

The idea ought to be easy enough to replicate with an MoD cantle, but I think the wire hoop would need to be placed after the bag had been sewn and turned the right way out. Otherwise the wire would obstruct the turning-out.

[figheadair]

I just obtained my own MOD cantle and will be making 3 interchangeable bags for myself: 1 leopard, 1 ocelot, and 1 serval. I love the snap boss/fastener mechanism on these cantles for that ease of change.

Here's mine, before and after.

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[Troglodyte]

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This is a different image from the ones I mentioned, but you can get an idea of the internal division

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[12stones]

Here's mine, before and after.

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That's fantastic! Love that they used the edging to make it look somewhat laced/riveted too.

[12stones]

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Those look like a great solution. You've never had any issues with them falling off? Mind sharing what size you use as I'd love to give this a try?

This is a different image from the ones I mentioned, but you can get an idea of the internal division

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That is quite the set up. I'm going to have to look into this more. I'm not sure if I love the idea or if it seems tedious having that extra division or not.