Those Happy Face Thingies Get In The Way

**Riverkilt** · 6th October 12, 04:49 AM

When I go to post a message the happy face thingies get in the way of the right side of the space to post messages in and when the line copy goes under them I can't read/monitor for typos. Not a big thing, more a pain. Not sure why they come out on top of what I'm typing and aren't somewhere out of the way like before...?

I was getting a lot of "Internet Not Working" pop ups so found on line how to disable "Shockwave Flash Object" which appears to be Adobe Flash Player too. It got rid of the pesky Internet Not Working messages but also keeps me from watching silly videos folk post for one reason or another. For a while thought it made the happy faces go away too, but they're on this message and they cover five lines of copy.

Yeah, I know...I'm the ONLY one and I'm using the wrong browser....but sorry, I ain't gonna change...

Gotta be a reason the happy faces cover the copy lines...??

**artificer** · 6th October 12, 05:05 AM

Ron,

You will find that as time passes things will get increasingly bad for you if you don't update/change your browser. Eventually you'll get almost nothing BUT problems.

Browsers speak the language of the internet, and at this point yours is trying to order food at a short-order diner using Shakespearean English.

Blocking flash shouldn't affect the alignment of the text boxes / smileys (I routinely run with flash & script blocking) as well.

If you won't change browsers you should at least try and upgrade to the latest version of that browser that will run on your machine.

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**Riverkilt** · 6th October 12, 05:29 AM

Thanks, believe I am using the latest version of Internet Explorer....should be top of the line right...biggest company have the most modern stuff....?

Suggestions for change involve a bunch of choices and each one seems to have its problems.

**artificer** · 6th October 12, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

Thanks, believe I am using the latest version of Internet Explorer....should be top of the line right...biggest company have the most modern stuff....?

Suggestions for change involve a bunch of choices and each one seems to have its problems.

You're running IE 9 on windows vista or 7? If so you'll need someone else to help you troubleshoot, I very happily jumped ship back to Apple a year ago and won't allow IE on this machine.
If you're still running an older version of IE or if you're running XP I might be able to help some.

As an aside, in the software world the most modern stuff is not necessarily tied to the biggest company.

Company size is a bit like Ship size, sometimes the bigger you are the slower you can react. I'd argue that Microsoft is a bulk freighter at this point. They can carry a lot of stuff, but it takes three tug boats for them to maneuver.
There are lots of very cool (and powerful) software toys out there being made by some very small companies.

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**Riverkilt** · 6th October 12, 08:24 AM

IE 9 on XP....

I got it on a top of the line HP laptop....my attitude remains, "It's supposed to work - I paid good money for it"

I know there are all sorts of mavericks and geeks and "I'm betters" out there...but if they don't want their stuff to work with IE and XP that's their choice. My choice is to chug along with what I have.

I'm an old man - not a 17 year old techie.... Tired of leaning curves... been arguing with computers since 1980 and they seem to get more glitches rather than smooth out. If them Flash folks wanna develop technology that doesn't work with IE and XP then I won't use it. Can't figure why I should change for them...

Guessing if I did change something to get the faces out of the way something else would glitch with the new stuff.

Thanks for the offers though....

**artificer** · 6th October 12, 08:38 AM

Part of the problem may be that IE9 isn't designed for XP. It shows Vista as the minimum OS for operation.

It's supposed to work, but not how you're running it.
I understand how you feel about changing systems (I liked XP quite a bit, as far as Windows OS went), but pretty soon you'll find yourself no longer chugging along.

XP is already over a decade old. You're going to have to find a new OS in 1.5 years, as XP will no longer be supported by April 2014.

Here's a page showing the release and end of support dates.

You might do well to save yourself some headaches and upgrade your OS before the support for XP is pulled. Once you stop getting security updates you'll be a sitting duck for viruses.

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**Riverkilt** · 6th October 12, 09:11 AM

No way XP is that old...grumble grumble....just got it a couple years ago....why would anyone stop supporting something they sell...

About ready to find an antique shop and buy a typewriter.....

Thanks for the link though.

Doesn't make sense that HP would sell systems that aren't compatible - they came with the rig.

Probably should wait until 2014 though since anything I fiddled with today is gonna be obsolete or conflicting with something by then anyway.

**O'Callaghan** · 6th October 12, 01:21 PM

Support? LOL! If Microsoft have ever given me any support I never noticed it.

I do empathise with Ron, though. Everything should work with every browser, although IE has never bothered complying with standards.

I have the opposite situation. I am running Windows 8 consumer preview and an unofficial 64 bit build of Firefox called Waterfox. XMarks seems to work OK, though. I haven't had any problems with other pages either, although when I tried to use a Firefox addin called Incredibar it stopped tabbed browsing from working until I disabled it, although it works OK with 32 bit Firefox running under Windows 7 on my work desktop.

**O'Callaghan** · 6th October 12, 01:23 PM

(Double post) Oops!

**Deirachel** · 6th October 12, 09:38 PM

Ron, if you are still having the problem do a couple of things. Go ahead and turn Flash back on. It's not causing this.

One, clear your browser history (Edit: How to: In IE, click "Tools" at the top, click Internet Options, Click the "Delete" button under Browser History {middle of the pop-up window, first tab}. It may be a formatting file that didn't download from the site right, and it will live in your cache until you clear it.

If that doesn't work, go to Tools on in IE. Click on "Windows Update". After a few seconds, you should get a list of available updates to your software and hardware. Do all of them, and try again. If that doesn't work, then update your Java (here: http://www.java.com/en/download/inc/....jsp?locale=en ) and Flash (here: http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html click on the highest number).

But, to support artificer, to be blunt, Microsoft isn't the best at ANYTHING (Apple isn't much better, either). They're the biggest because of how they did business for a long time (stuff like minimal charges for copies of their OS to computer manufactures, for which they have be hit by many large fines for illegal business practices). Once they got big, now they have a strangle hold on the market, due to being the largest market share, making other companies have to do business with them or die.

I use Microsoft because of ease of use. It's easy to me to not have to find a program piece (called a kernel) for Android or Linux to run the many Windows games I want to play. If I didn't game, I wouldn't use Microsoft for anything.