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18th December 13, 12:29 PM
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Drummond, Lord John (1739) - reconstruction of 18th century tartan
Hello Folks,
I´m new here in this forum. As a collector of pre-Culloden tartans, I had in mind to reconstruct an old tartan one day. Now it´s done, and I´m very happy with the result. So I thought I should share some pics.
The tartan shown below is a reconstruction of the tartan worn by Lord John Drummond, Colonel of the Régiment Royal Écossais (1744--1763). I was inspired by the famous painting which was created in 1739 by the Italian court painter Domenico Duprá.
To reconstruct the tartan, I studied the portrait of Lord John Drummond for a long time, then followed my experience, such as my modest knowledge about threadcounts and colours as used in the 18th century.
The original reconstruction of that tartan has already been introduced by Tartan Historian Peter Eslea Macdonald. What you see here is a variant, my own interpretation of the tartan.
The Portrait of Lord John Drummond
A close-up of the historical 18th century herringbone selvedge
The colours I´ve chosen are actually darker as they appear in the photo. For example, the overstripe is Grey and the background colour is a brownish Red.
A close-up of the Sett before making the box pleats for my Kilt
To be honest, I´m very curious if you like my work.
Please feel free to share your thoughts.
Thank you. :-)
All the best,
Rod
Last edited by Rod Roy; 29th December 13 at 10:10 AM.
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18th December 13, 12:43 PM
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Well, I for one love it!
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Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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18th December 13, 12:54 PM
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Wonderful! I've always been a fan of this particular portrait. Thanks for sharing this and welcome aboard, we're happy to have you. I am curious to know what our resident tartan scholars think of this as well. 
Cheers,
Last edited by creagdhubh; 18th December 13 at 12:58 PM.
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18th December 13, 02:03 PM
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Title of thread changed at the request of the original poster.
Father Bill+
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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18th December 13, 02:55 PM
#5
I actually think that looks quite nice. I especially like the use of the grey, instead of white, stripe.
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18th December 13, 03:01 PM
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What a great project! I particularly like the herringbone selvedge. That's a very nice touch.
I am intrigued, though, by your choice of colors. I would have thought that Wilson's standard colors would have been closer to what was depicted in the portrait.
Also, I believe that Peter's correct title is LtCol., vice Mr.
Last edited by davidlpope; 18th December 13 at 03:06 PM.
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18th December 13, 04:25 PM
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@ David:
Well, finding the right colours was a tricky thing in deed. A lovely effect of the mixing colours is that the Grey overstripes do appear in two shades, a nice Grey (slightly green) on the Green Background, and a wonderful Light-Blue on the Fox-Red background..... but as mentioned before, all overstripes are Grey.
Last edited by Rod Roy; 29th December 13 at 06:26 AM.
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18th December 13, 04:50 PM
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Failte! and that is wonderful!
As for the pallet...what you've done if brilliant and distinctly your own.
Remember, "Wilson's colours" are such because they were prolific. They noted specific recipes, documented by Peter E. MacDonald, for their dye lots so as to maintain consistency of quality throughout large quantity production. Peter E. MacDonald, James D. Scarlett & Matthew A.C. Newsome write re: Wilson's...when necessary, they were able to obtain the very dark blues, greens & blacks accented by vibrant scarlet and yellow hues normally associated with aniline dyes, now the "modern" pallet. See some of their regimental sett relics.
They also write re: the science of sun exposure, fade patterns and the contemporary "ancient" colour pallet being rather ubiquitous.
In one contribution, Peter E. MacDonald notes the difficulties of C18th ingredients, e.g. cochineal, alum or tin mordant in obtaining vibrant scarlet.
All these variables coalesced to create the venerable "Wilson's" pallet we love.
What your creative, artistic eye perceives as historic and appealing will eventually become Rod Roy's version of the C18th - C19th pallet.
Guid on Ya!
Domehead
Last edited by Domehead; 18th December 13 at 04:54 PM.
Reason: cleaning up the grammar
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18th December 13, 05:19 PM
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Thank you so much, Domehead!
Very kind words. :-)
Do you think I should give that variant sett a Name then? Any ideas? Let me know.
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18th December 13, 07:45 PM
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Welcome aboard Rod Roy! The tartan is quite beautiful. As an FYI Peter MacDonald is a member here on XMarks as well, his username is figheadair.
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