X Marks the Scot - An on-line community of kilt wearers.

   X Marks Partners - (Go to the Partners Dedicated Forums )
USA Kilts website Celtic Croft website Celtic Corner website Houston Kiltmakers

User Tag List

Page 1 of 13 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 124
  1. #1
    Join Date
    22nd June 08
    Location
    Fort Campbell, KY
    Posts
    795
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    I'm not Scottish

    This is somewhat of a personal pet peeve...the use of 'i'm Scottish' by people who obviously are not Scottish.

    Being Scottish is like being German or being Chilean or being a US Citizen. You either are born there or you become one.

    Currently I am Chilean, but when my citizenship finally comes through, I will be a US Citizen (an 'American'), but I still am not Scottish.

    My grandma was Scottish so I guess that makes me 25% Scot.

    I have minor Spanish (Spain) nobility blood in my ancestry, yet I am not Spanish and certainly I am not a noble.

    I also have Russian and German blood in my ancestry, yet I am not Russian or German.

    I am of Scottish heritage, and I have Scottish ancestry. Just as I am of Spanish, German and Russian ancestry.

    Just something to consider when answering that question.

    Just as we look down on people claiming to be something they are not, or claiming to be of a nationality they obviously are not of, we should remember that we are not Scottish, we do however have Scottish blood and that is just as good.

    Just had to get it off my chest.
    Hector Rojas Young | Chilean-Scot

    operor non sentio mihi , quinymo agnosco mihi

    Clan Young - We Ride!!

  2. #2
    Join Date
    2nd July 06
    Location
    Madison, Wisconsin
    Posts
    4,678
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I see your point, but let me clarify why I say that. I say "I am Scottish" in America, because everybody knows that I'm American, they want to know if I have Scottish ancestry. In the US, it's just easier to say "I am Scottish" than "I have ancestors who were Scottish". If I ask somebody "if they're Scottish", I know they're American, I want to know if they have Scottish heritage.

    Now, when I'm abroad, I clarify like that, because they don't already know that I am American. Like when I'm in Ireland, people will ask me if I'm Irish and I reply "I'm American, but have Irish ancestry".

  3. #3
    Join Date
    24th October 08
    Location
    Sarasota, FL
    Posts
    679
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Both well-written points.
    "A true adventurer goes forth, aimless and uncalculating, to meet and greet unknown fate." ~ Domino Harvey ~
    ~ We Honor Our Fallen ~

  4. #4
    Join Date
    22nd November 07
    Location
    US
    Posts
    11,355
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Red face

    I'm a dandelion.
    I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
    Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…

  5. #5
    Join Date
    15th April 07
    Location
    State College, PA
    Posts
    2,426
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Crocker View Post
    I'm a dandelion.
    I had a good laugh!
    Wallace Catanach, Kiltmaker

    A day without killting is like a day without sunshine.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    13th August 05
    Location
    NJ, USA
    Posts
    345
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    This is a point which I tend to find puzzling and amusing. I frequently get asked what part of Scotland I'm from, or my family is from. Folks see a large, ruddy faced, bearded guy kilted and playing the pipes, and make the automatic assumption. I explain that my father was an avid genealogist, and that the earliest Young (family name) he found he believed came from the Kincardineshire region of Scotland, but he was unable to get firm proof. However, we do have the record that shows he was married in Phila. PA in 1742, so by my estimation, that makes me an American.
    Just the other day I was speaking about "hyphenated Americans" to three of my grandkids. I sit (stand and sometimes run) at the head of a decidedly interracial family. I'm of European stock and my wife is Japanese. Our youngest daughter married a black man. I picked up her three youngest kids from school to have dinner with us. On the way home the conversation turned to ?/Americans. I explained to the kids that their grandmother is a Japanese/American because she was born in Japan, and became an American citizen, but in my opinion, anyone born in this country is simply an American. We all have different ancestry, but we're Americans.
    My granddaughter seemed a bit disappointed that she was just a "plain American", but her brothers seemed to take to the idea better.
    All skill and effort is to no avail when an angel pees down your drones.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    25th May 06
    Location
    Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    1,730
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by hospitaller View Post
    This is somewhat of a personal pet peeve...the use of 'i'm Scottish' by people who obviously are not Scottish.

    Being Scottish is like being German or being Chilean or being a US Citizen. You either are born there or you become one.

    Currently I am Chilean, but when my citizenship finally comes through, I will be a US Citizen (an 'American'), but I still am not Scottish.

    My grandma was Scottish so I guess that makes me 25% Scot.

    I have minor Spanish (Spain) nobility blood in my ancestry, yet I am not Spanish and certainly I am not a noble.

    I also have Russian and German blood in my ancestry, yet I am not Russian or German.

    I am of Scottish heritage, and I have Scottish ancestry. Just as I am of Spanish, German and Russian ancestry.

    Just something to consider when answering that question.

    Just as we look down on people claiming to be something they are not, or claiming to be of a nationality they obviously are not of, we should remember that we are not Scottish, we do however have Scottish blood and that is just as good.

    Just had to get it off my chest.
    Like Greg said, I think most people (not born in Scotland) simply mean 'Scottish heritage' when they say, "I'm Scottish."

    Being Scottish is not the same as being an American (or Canadian). One cannot become Scottish because Scotland hasn't been a sovereign nation for 301 years. One can become a British subject, but cannot become a 'Scottish citizen' as the concept does not exist.
    [B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]John Hart[/COLOR]
    Owner/Kiltmaker - Keltoi

  8. #8
    Join Date
    26th May 08
    Location
    Ajax, Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    100
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    British by birth, Scottish by the grace of god and canadian by choice.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    8th January 08
    Location
    The Bayou City - Houston, TX
    Posts
    6,730
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by beloitpiper View Post
    I see your point, but let me clarify why I say that. I say "I am Scottish" in America, because everybody knows that I'm American, they want to know if I have Scottish ancestry. In the US, it's just easier to say "I am Scottish" than "I have ancestors who were Scottish". If I ask somebody "if they're Scottish", I know they're American, I want to know if they have Scottish heritage.

    Now, when I'm abroad, I clarify like that, because they don't already know that I am American. Like when I'm in Ireland, people will ask me if I'm Irish and I reply "I'm American, but have Irish ancestry".
    Nail on the head. Well done.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    8th May 08
    Location
    Jacksonville, FL
    Posts
    2,162
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Crocker View Post
    I'm a dandelion.
    I certainly understand that you mean to say that you are of dandelion heritage.
    Airman. Piper. Scholar. - Avatar: MacGregor Tartan
    “KILT, n. A costume sometimes worn by Scotchmen in America and Americans in Scotland.” - Ambrose Gwinett Bierce
    www.melbournepipesanddrums.com

Page 1 of 13 12311 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Utah Scottish Association Highland Games & Scottish Festival
    By Kent Frazier in forum Highland Games and Celtic Event Discussion
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 14th May 08, 06:55 PM
  2. Replies: 26
    Last Post: 18th May 07, 04:03 AM
  3. Scottish Kilts For Scottish Soldiers
    By Rusty in forum Kilts in the Media
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 11th May 07, 06:29 PM
  4. Scottish Tartans Society/Scottish Tartans Authority
    By ronstew in forum General Kilt Talk
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 26th March 06, 06:49 PM
  5. 15th(Scottish)/9th(Scottish)
    By Archangel in forum General Kilt Talk
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 16th August 05, 01:52 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.0