Scott Green Modern

[tonycscott]

Does anyone have images of traditional 8 yard knife pleat made with Scott Green Modern tartan?

I am debating on whether to use this tartan on my next kilt but it is hard to visualize what that might look like. This tartan pattern seems a bit "busy" to me with the Blue and Green not contrasting as much as they do with Scott Green Ancient.

Thanks,

Tony

[Barb T]

Below you'll see a pic of a kilt pleated to the sett in Weathered Green Scott. A kilt in the Modern Green Scott would look similar but with the typical dark colors of the Modern Green Scott. It is a challenging tartan to pleat well because it has so many stripes (see post at http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f317/), but, done carefully, it's spectacular.



BTW - it never makes sense to me to say something like Scott Green Modern. The tartan is "Scott" (that's the noun), and the adjectives modifying the noun are Modern and Green. Kind of like Baltimore Oriole, or Chipping Sparrow, or Great Horned Owl, or Southern Live Oak, or Dark Chocolate Cheesecake. You wouldn't say Owl Horned Great, or Sparrow Chipping, or Oriole Baltimore, or Oak Live Southern, or Cheesecake Chocolate Dark. Yes, they would appear in an index or an alpha list that way, but you'd never say them that way in conversation or write them that way in a sentence.

[Chip]

but you'd never say it that way in conversation or write it that way in a sentence.

You don't spend a lot of time around Soldiers, do you?

[Barb T]

Actually, I DO know what you mean. Our daughter, who is an Air Force Captain, just got some advice for an application she's submitting. The person said, "Just be sure to write it in English, not in 'Air Force'..."

[tonycscott]

Below you'll see a pic of a kilt pleated to the sett in Weathered Green Scott. A kilt in the Modern Green Scott would look similar but with the typical dark colors of the Modern Green Scott. It is a challenging tartan to pleat well because it has so many stripes (see post at http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f317/), but, done carefully, it's spectacular.



BTW - it never makes sense to me to say something like Scott Green Modern. The tartan is "Scott" (that's the noun), and the adjectives modifying the noun are Modern and Green. Kind of like Baltimore Oriole, or Chipping Sparrow, or Great Horned Owl, or Southern Live Oak, or Dark Chocolate Cheesecake. You wouldn't say Owl Horned Great, or Sparrow Chipping, or Oriole Baltimore, or Oak Live Southern, or Cheesecake Chocolate Dark. Yes, they would appear in an index or an alpha list that way, but you'd never say them that way in conversation or write them that way in a sentence.

Hi, Barb.

I do agree the Weathered Green Scott tartan is beautiful. I have a kilt in Ancient Green Scott and love it. Regarding Scott Green Modern versus speaking correctly in English, this is a perfect example of how technology affects the way we think and communicate. I am looking at these different tartans and their variations on a web site using drop downs which list FIRST the Family, Clan or District name THEN color THEN variation such as Modern, Ancient, etc.. These are interesting times indeed.

Thanks as always for your thoughtful replies.

Cheers,

Tony

[Barb T]

Yup - just like a bird book....

[The Wizard of BC]

Ah, the name game. Or how kiltmakers keep themselves entertained for hours.

There are a few Tartans listed under the name Scott. What many people, and at least one weaving company, call Scott Red is actually listed as Scott, 1842. On the Scottish Tartans Authority it is #1005 There are two other common Tartans listed under the name Scott. They are Scott, Hunting #1546 and Scott, Green #825.

Because of the way Tartans are listed - Alphabetically by name first - I have been writing Tartan names - Scott, 1842, modern version.
Even though wrong as Barb points out, it has been sort of accepted that we list Tartans by the name first. Scott, then the identifier, then the version. But somehow we have dropped the commas and the word 'version'.
But not everyone has found the Scottish Tartans Authority or the Scottish Register of Tartans in their Google search so don't know that there is more than one Scott Tartan. They usually walk into my shop and say something like "I would like my kilt made in the Scott Tartan". Then the fun begins.

The color version of Tartans has also caused all sorts of confusion. Many people, not in the kilt world, would believe that using the words modern or ancient would refer to the age of the Tartan not the color. I see this all the time in the shop. The assumption that an ancient Tartan would be older and therefore the original or 'correct' one. So the poor customer walks into my shop and says "I would like the old Scott Tartan".

[Liam]

Steve's method of using commas is perfectly acceptable if I recall my grade school grammar. So would this I think: Scott tartan - 1842 -weathered, or Scott tartan/1842/weathered in our modern age.

[The Wizard of BC]

But that kills all the fun.

We get the customer who comes in and is adamant that their name is Thompson or Thomson. They are positive that their spelling is the right one and want 'their' Tartan.

And don't get us started on the whole Mac vs Mc thing. We just break out the popcorn for that show.

[davidlpope]

Many people, not in the kilt world, would believe that using the words modern or ancient would refer to the age of the Tartan not the color. I see this all the time in the shop. The assumption that an ancient Tartan would be older and therefore the original or 'correct' one. So the poor customer walks into my shop and says "I would like the old Scott Tartan".

Except for those cases where "old" or "ancient" refer to the particular tartan being older than other clan tartans (e.g. Old Buchanan, Ancient MacMillan, etc.).

Within my own clan I've been advocating that we refer to the green, burgundy, and yellow tartan as "MacMillan Old Sett" to avoid confusion with the color schemes.