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31st March 07, 11:33 AM
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Tracing Family roots
i wasn't sure where to put this so monteraters please feel free to move it. ok so to start off i was trying to make a fammily tree for my family and I. I got my cousin involed and what we uncovered was more than a can of worms to say the least. we have now traced back to 500 A.D. yes that number is correct. we have come from many lands , England where my family still holds title to a castle and much land. Germany although i can find no living relatives there. ireland and france. well that a mix of people if i have ever seen one. my cousin has found pictures of some of the family that are quite old i hope to get a copy soon to share . we also have came across a picture of the ship Hope that my family was on to come to the USA. Has anyone else traced there roots back this far ? Or i am the only one absessed enough to do such a thing. its been a long 3 years tracking all the informaion. lol
to be cont.
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31st March 07, 11:37 AM
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this is a picture of my family tartan
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31st March 07, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Celtic Amazon Goddess
this is a picture of my family tartan
http://www.snodgrass-clan.com/tartan.html
ok lets try that again. lol
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31st March 07, 11:40 AM
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I have one line of mine back to 515 in the Holy Land.Have Queen Mary of Scots in my line and tons of royals got lucky because tapped into royal records and they keep close tabs on bloodlines.Lol now if 143 (think thats the right #)people would die Id be queen lol .Can you see me as Queen?
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31st March 07, 11:53 AM
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I have one line that goes back to the 1600's.
[B]Paul Murray[/B]
Kilted in Detroit! Now that's tough.... LOL
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31st March 07, 01:45 PM
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Dirka & I have such a mixed up and confusing family history we count ourselves lucky to know a little as we do.
Originally Posted by brandycr
........Can you see me as Queen?
Sure Why not Just tax & judge fairly.
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31st March 07, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by brandycr
I have one line of mine back to 515 in the Holy Land.Have Queen Mary of Scots in my line and tons of royals got lucky because tapped into royal records and they keep close tabs on bloodlines.Lol now if 143 (think thats the right #)people would die Id be queen lol .Can you see me as Queen?
Suddenly I'm envisioning the rebirth of serfdom...
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31st March 07, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by brandycr
I have one line of mine back to 515 in the Holy Land.Have Queen Mary of Scots in my line and tons of royals got lucky because tapped into royal records and they keep close tabs on bloodlines.Lol now if 143 (think thats the right #)people would die Id be queen lol .Can you see me as Queen?
Virtually everyone of European descent is descended from royalty. We have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 greatgrandparents, etc. Continuing this, if we go to, say 1215, the time of the signing of the Magna Carta, we have billions of ancestors of that generation, more than there were people on earth, let alone Europe and especially the British Isles. If we continue to Charlemagne, 800 AD, the number is in the trillions. So, every European who lived then who has living descendants is the ancestor of each of us. As the say, we are also descended from Charlemagne's stableboy, but he being poor, left no records, which are the documents of the transfer of wealth, by marriage, descent, enfeoffment, etc.
If you do enough genealogical research, you will invariably find that you have ancestors among the gentry. These descend from the aristocracy, who in turn descend from royalty. This is especially true in the British Isles, a more closed gene pool.
I don't know how many royal descents I have, but they include in England, Edward III, Edward I and John; too many Welsh kings and princes to list including Llewellyn the Great, the last prince of Wales, too many Scots kings to list, Charlemagne, St Louis of France, etc. I do not take pride in this, and am not at all special or unique. These historical figures have millions of descendants. For those of us who do genealogical research, royal and aristocratic ancestry is helpful since it has usually already been throroughly researched, we don't have to worry about it, and can spend our time on a much more exciting area: original research that no one has yet explored, a much greater source of pride to me than my ancestry.
Last edited by gilmore; 31st March 07 at 02:33 PM.
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31st March 07, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by brandycr
I have one line of mine back to 515 in the Holy Land.Have Queen Mary of Scots in my line and tons of royals got lucky because tapped into royal records and they keep close tabs on bloodlines.Lol now if 143 (think thats the right #)people would die Id be queen lol .Can you see me as Queen?
Queen of what? Are you Maria Vladimirovna of Russia?
Click here for a list of all 4,804 of those in succession to the throne of the United Kingdom, as of January 1, 2001 http://www.wargs.com/essays/succession/2001.html
Last edited by gilmore; 31st March 07 at 07:29 PM.
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1st April 07, 07:27 AM
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I am fortunate in that we were able to trace our family branch of the Mackay Clan back to Alexander Macdonald, Lord of the Isles; via a direct link to Angus Dubh Mackay in the early 1400's. I guess that makes me a Macdonald as much as a Mackay
Also, if you take a little leap of faith you can then claim that Angus Mackay was a descendant of the original Mackay Chief - One step further and you can apply the most popular and accepted theory as to the origins of the chieftenship of the Clan Mackay, is that the chief was descended from the Pictish Royal House of MacEth.
So - I trump ya all - I am descended from the original Pictish Royal Line as well as the Lord of the Isles
Brian
Citation for Angus Dubh Mackay's relation to Ian Macdonald, Lord of the Isles:
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Angus 'Dubh' Mackay of Strathnaver1 (M)
#108073 Last Edited 14 May 2005
Angus 'Dubh' Mackay of Strathnaver married Elizabeth MacDonald, daughter of Iain Macdonald, Lord of the Isles and Margaret Stewart, before 8 October 1415.1
Citations
1. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 449. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
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