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8th August 08, 05:13 AM
#1
Miniature Gaming and Kilts... oh so wrong
As some of you know, I play some miniature gaming such as Warhammer and Warmachine. While at the game store last night I was floored by a new box of minis that came out.
A group of guys were hovering around the counter near the register oooing and ahhhing over a newly released box. One of my friends waved me over saying, "you have got to check this out. Its Celts!" Excited I hurried over and picked up one of the boxes... My jaw dropped at least three inches.
On the box, by a company called Warlords, was an artists illustration of how the army could be painted. I was expecting a kilted army, instead *cringes* the minis were depicted wearing both kilts and pants, at the same time; most of them in two different plaids with a third plaid design on their capes. It was like a clash of the tartans.
Everyone else seemed very impressed with the set and couldn't understand why I was so turned off by it.
This is a pic of the box front. (more pics on the back)

I may pick up a box just to try and paint a good army. I know kilts are not period, but neither is that depiction.
What's your two cents worth?
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8th August 08, 05:16 AM
#2
That's just wrong on so many levels.
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8th August 08, 05:56 AM
#3
Hmmm . . in the picture, it appears to me that, they are wearing the Leine. As for the "bright colored" outfits, this is historically accurate. The Celts used berries and plants to dye their wool clothing different colors. In the end, their clothing, once dyed, would look very much like a tartan.
The Celts' clothes showed their status and importance within the tribe. Men would wear a tunic with a belt, a cloak and trousers. Women wore dresses fastened with brooches.
In battle, the men in front would be nude and, the men in the rear would wear trousers and cloaks. Here is an account, from the Roman's point of views: http://www.isle-of-skye.org.uk/celti...ia/celt_c3.htm.
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8th August 08, 06:26 AM
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Given that very few photos of the period have survived... I don't think one can be too critical.
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8th August 08, 06:43 AM
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 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
Given that very few photos of the period have survived... I don't think one can be too critical.
There are no photos at all from the period (as cameras have a long time to be invented from Ancient history), just paintings, drawings, sketches, etc. But, most of those were done well after the period itself.
Something we do have: are accounts from individuals that were there, in the presence of Celts (i.e. the Romans, even accounts from individuals on into Early British Isle history) . The remainder has come from archaeological research/digs.
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8th August 08, 02:40 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by macneighill
There are no photos at all from the period (as cameras have a long time to be invented from Ancient history), just paintings, drawings, sketches, etc.
The photo comment was a humorous remark.
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8th August 08, 02:45 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
The photo comment was a humorous remark. 
I was gonna put a humorous remark myself but, forgot to . . oh well :mrgreen:
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10th August 08, 12:42 AM
#8
Two things I notice right away. 1) The Roman armour. It's conceivable that it's been plundered from dead Roman soldiers, but the effect is to make it look like these guys are being led by Ceasar's third cousin twice removed. 2) The white oblong shield appears to be based on the large bronze shield now in the British Museum dated to 400-300 BC.
Also, I just noticed that some of the shield decoration is imitative of medieval heraldric designs.
An uair a théid an gobhainn air bhathal 'se is feàrr a bhi réidh ris.
(When the smith gets wildly excited, 'tis best to agree with him.)
Kiltio Ergo Sum.
I Kilt, therefore I am. -McClef
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9th August 08, 01:22 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
Given that very few photos of the period have survived... I don't think one can be too critical.
I have a few photos from that time,a bit faded now-------I keep them on my Victorian video stand.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 9th August 08 at 10:25 AM.
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9th August 08, 10:57 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I have a few photos from that time,a bit faded now-------I keep them on my Victorian video stand. 
Right below your steam-powered flatscreen television, right?
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