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    I'm sure in some people's minds there are...

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    Arlen - that's amazing, simply amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    The woman, who looked to be in her mid-twenties, soberly instructed all the children that if your tartan had red in it, that meant you had bastards in your family.
    In her defense, she was probably correct....If your tartan has red....or blue, green, black, white, yellow etc... then you most assuredly have bastards in your family somewhere. Legitimacy is no prerequisite for being a part of a family.

    Arlen, thanks for the entertaining story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    Arlen,
    She was from Scotland, and therefor the expert. We are just dumb Americans playing dress-up, it seems.
    This comes very close to a informal ad hominem circumstantial fallacy in logic.
    Any other guesses as to how many fallacies are committed here?
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    Matt, that story really did make me laugh out loud.
    Sometimes it makes me cringe when I hear fellow Scots insisting they know best just because they are from Scotland.

    I will admit, when I was a young teenager I was more than a little like that. Teenage-angsty-know-it-all hormones mixed with anger at the American boy who went to our school and complained about hating Scotland. It wasn't until I was 20 it occured to me that the poor boy had been uprooted from a very happy life and transplanted somewhere that was socially a million miles away.

    That said, once you 'grow up' you are generally supposed to have at least manners if not sense.

    In a perfect world, eh?


    As for being a bastard for having red in your tartan, that's a new one on me!
    Doesn't the Balmoral tartan have a wee red stripe in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    ...if your tartan had red in it, that meant you had bastards in your family.
    How did she know, we've never even met.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arlen View Post
    As for being a bastard for having red in your tartan, that's a new one on me! Doesn't the Balmoral tartan have a wee red stripe in it?
    Well....

    Great story Arlen

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    Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    ...if your tartan had red in it, that meant you had bastards in your family.
    For me its just an accident of birth ,
    but for some they are self made men
    I'm an 18th century guy born into the 20th century and have been dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demobud View Post
    Then there must be a LOT of bastards in Scotland, 'cause there's a lot of taratans with red in 'em.
    Then why don't all scottish tartans have red in them. Sorry that's the English in me. But wait Canada's unofficial national tartan has a lot of red in it! Matt are you sure she's not American?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    The woman, who looked to be in her mid-twenties, soberly instructed all the children that if your tartan had red in it, that meant you had bastards in your family.

    When our museum staff attempted to dispell her myth, she would have none of it. She was from Scotland, and therefor the expert. We are just dumb Americans playing dress-up, it seems.
    Spoken like a true Campbell!

    (serious tongue in cheek here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    if your tartan had red in it, that meant you had bastards in your family.
    The way I heard it, was - - if you wear the tartan, there must be Bastards in your family! Or was it if you wear a kilt you are a Brd - I can't remember for sure.......

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