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3rd February 09, 11:17 AM
#31
Here are my Buckle Brogues they are Kilties from Nicoll Brothers, while they are no longer around you can still find Kilties on ebay from time to time. I also have a pair of Ghillie Brogues though I find I wear the Buckle Brogues far more often.

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3rd February 09, 11:24 AM
#32
Yes they are nice - the top strap looks more substantial than my military pair.
Where did you get the doublet? I have been thinking of getting a doublet but they usually look a bit tight or fitted and as I am no longer whip cord thin that might not suit me. Yours looks as if its a more relaxed cut and it really works.
The 'Eathen in his idleness bows down to wood and stone,
'E don't obey no orders unless they is his own,
He keeps his side arms awful,
And he leaves them all about,
Until up comes the Regiment and kicks the 'Eathen out.
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3rd February 09, 11:30 AM
#33
I found the Doublet on ebay the original maker was Lawrie's in Glasgow, however it is not really all that relaxed a fit, it takes an effort to get into.
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3rd February 09, 11:48 AM
#34
[QUOTE=Courtmount;664783]I have a pair of Buckle brogues and think that worn with diced or tartan pattern hose they are the only thing for formal evening wear. I noticed that some one has put them on their list in the stuff you hate thread so I'm here to declare that he is wrong! QUOTE]
I don't think it's really a right or wrong proposition. I too don't like ghillie's for me but I wear black wing-tip dress shoes for dressy affairs. All have been done and it comes down to personal preference as long as (from my simple perspective) you're wearing dress shoes for dress affairs and casual shoes for casual affairs.
Steve
Clans MacDonald & MacKay
In the Highlands of Colorado.
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3rd February 09, 11:48 AM
#35
Personally I have no problem with Ghille Brogues, though I would be inclined to only wear them with a PC.
I appreciate that "buckle brogues"/"mary janes"/etc. are considered traditional formal footwear, but they're not quite to my taste for my own wear. (The same applies for glengarrys, balmorals, Montrose doublets, and the like.)
 Originally Posted by Courtmount
What would you think of this (in black). I will be tempted if my issue brogues ever wear out:

I do like "monk" shoes, however, and think they shoes above would be just fine for daywear. I wouldn't have a problem with a black pair being worn in lieu of ghillie brogues or any of the aforementioned "buckle" shoes, but I appreciate that this might not be deemed proper by some. I suppose it depends on the level of formality. ("Close, but no cigar?")
I've been considering the following myself, in fact -- the first to be worn with my Braemar, perhaps; the second for more casual wear:

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3rd February 09, 11:52 AM
#36
I agree. The first ones are dress and the second ones are more daily wear.
Steve
Clans MacDonald & MacKay
In the Highlands of Colorado.
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3rd February 09, 12:00 PM
#37
I, personally don't like the usual buckle brogues, and do like the look of gillie brogues. To me, the buckle brogues I've seen look, well....Mary Janes. Doesn't do it for me, though if others want to wear them, that's fine of course. It's not like wearing something that I don't personally happen to like is WRONG.
I don't happen to have a pair of gillie brogues, myself. Maybe someday I'll splurge. Meanwhile I muddle by on the occasional times when I might wear dressy shoes, with a pair of comfortable black leather oxfords. I really need to give those shoes a bit of a shine, it's been a while.
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3rd February 09, 02:00 PM
#38
It's interesting how many members here have quite polarised views about an item of footwear which half a century ago was considered perfectly normal by our parents and grandparents. Does it perhaps say something about attitudes today and that they are much less tolerant of any variations from the norm where clothing is concerned than was the case in those days? And yet people nowadays are supposedly much more tolerant of so many prejudices that blighted society in those days. I won't list them for fear of the inevitable retribution by the moderators but wearing a pair of shoes does seem fairly mild in comparison to so many of the injustices that I remember as a child in the 1950's taking place and which I could not then comprehend how any civil society could behave in such a way. I am sure many here are glad to see the end of those times but must be concerned that any prejudice still survives albeit on a supposedly trivial level such as what someone wears. Let us hope that it will be in our lifetimes that all such prejudices are a thing of the past.
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3rd February 09, 02:05 PM
#39
 Hear, hear. :beer:
Steve
Clans MacDonald & MacKay
In the Highlands of Colorado.
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3rd February 09, 02:10 PM
#40
By the way these are the buckles I got on Ebay. I think you will agree they put those plain ones like McMurdo's in the shade -

I know, I'm such a dandy.
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