My New Keltoi Box Pleat! O'Saffron

[BoldHighlander]

I did not know that pleating to sett was much of an option for a box pleat kilt. How small of a sett repeat should it be to be a reasonable option?

I was wondering the same thing

[M. A. C. Newsome]

I was wondering the same thing

I don't want to hijack this thread, so I'll answer this in another thread.

[BoldHighlander]

I don't want to hijack this thread, so I'll answer this in another thread.

Thanks Matt!

[ccga3359]

I wonder John, what the Ensign of Ontario would look like box pleated to sett.

[slohairt]

Sorry I wasn't able to respond to this thread earlier, but I've been out-of-town for a few days due to a family issue.

Thanks for the review, Dan! (The cheque is in the mail, ) The O'Saffron tartan looks really nice in the natural light. Under my work lamps it has a tendency to look more brown than rust-coloured. It also looks really nice with the Mallaig style hose; enough to make me consider getting a pair!

[slohairt]

If John doesn't mind me interjecting in on this thread, I've sometimes done box pleated kilts to the sett, as well.

Generally, I'd pleat them to the line, but if the sett repeat of the tartan is a bit smaller than normal, it can work out much better in terms of number of pleats and pleat size if you pleat to the sett. I recently made myself a weathered Armstrong kilt pleated to the sett for that exact reason.

Normally, though, the arrangement of the pleats works better if pleated to the line, so this is how most of my (and I assume Josh's, as well) four yard box pleated kilt will be.

Hey John, have you ever had to do a box pleated kilt to "nothing" or to a made up pattern? I've had to do this a couple of times. One that springs to mind was a Matheson kilt with an incredibly large sett size -- I think it was 12" or 14", and the client's waist was tiny, only about 27". There was no way I could do either to the line or to the sett effectively, so I made up a pleating arrangement and it actually turned out looking really very nice, and quite evocative of very early nineteenth century civilian kilts.

The O'Saffron tartan has a sett of 5 inches exactly, so pleating to the sett was really the only feasible option to get good-sized pleats.

No, I can't say I've done any kilts pleated to "nothing" (save solid-coloured kilts, of course!), but I'm sure the day will come when I have to improvise! I've made some box-pleated kilts where the pleat was centred on a line that itself was not centred in the sett, but that's about it. An example would be Graham of Montrose pleated to one of the double white stripes instead on either black stripe.

Though no pleat shot was taken, there was a Muir (Modern) box-pleated kilt I made some time back that was reviewed in another thread. It was also pleated to the sett.

[slohairt]

I wonder John, what the Ensign of Ontario would look like box pleated to sett.

It would probably work. The sett size is 4.25", so adding half again would give a more workable size of 6.375" (with a facing of 2.125").