The Crow nation

[macwilkin]

Actually, if the reenactment of the battle is still held in the same location, it on property that belongs to a Crow family & is an actual part of the extended battle area/site.

Off the top of my head I forget the family's name, but I had a number of pard's in the cavalry reenactment community who've participated there.

Aha -- thanks for the clarification, Terry. You are quite correct that reenactments may be held on original battlefields -- just not the ones under NPS jurisdiction.

T.

[BoldHighlander]

I've always found the Crow, Cheyenne, Ojibwe and Cherokee I know to relate well to Scots (in East Tennessee you are in the vast minority if you aren't 1/2 Cherokee and 1/2 Scottish, so apparently they have been...erm,...relating well for a while).

Indeed

My own Scots-Irish ancestor/great-grandfather married a full-blood Cherokee in the late 1760's in NW North Carolina, prior to moving to East Tennessee. His son (another g-grandfather) married a cousin from the same Cherokee family.

[BoldHighlander]

Aha -- thanks for the clarification, Terry. You are quite correct that reenactments may be held on original battlefields -- just not the ones under NPS jurisdiction.

T.

Would be quite the hair raising experience (pun intended) to reenact the Custer battle on land that was part of the original site, wouldn't it?

[dfmacliam]

You might actually see that Native tribes fought for the US or the Colonies, depending on the war or battles. The Iroquois even split amoungst themselves, with some fight with the British, while others sided with the Americans.
Even with Custer, and the last stand, Crows went into the battle knowing full well they would not survive, and even after Custer released them from service, before the battle started. To this day, animosity still exists between the Crow and Lakota.

[BoldHighlander]

You might actually see that Native tribes fought for the US or the Colonies, depending on the war or battles. The Iroquois even split amoungst themselves, with some fight with the British, while others sided with the Americans.
Even with Custer, and the last stand, Crows went into the battle knowing full well they would not survive, and even after Custer released them from service, before the battle started. To this day, animosity still exists between the Crow and Lakota.

Indeed. The Oneida sided with the colonists against the British, breaking the 6 Nation Confederacy. Remembering to that some Apache joined the US Army as scouts to track down other Apache.

And interesting point about the Crow & Lakota today. Makes me think of my uncle (by marriage) who was a full-blood Blackfoot. I don't think he cared for any of them

[macwilkin]

You might actually see that Native tribes fought for the US or the Colonies, depending on the war or battles. The Iroquois even split amoungst themselves, with some fight with the British, while others sided with the Americans.
Even with Custer, and the last stand, Crows went into the battle knowing full well they would not survive, and even after Custer released them from service, before the battle started. To this day, animosity still exists between the Crow and Lakota.

Only the Oneida really supported the Colonists, and that certainly didn't get them anywhere after the war was over. The majority of Native American tribes supported the British or tried to remain neutral.

T.

[macwilkin]

Indeed. The Oneida sided with the colonists against the British, breaking the 6 Nation Confederacy. Remembering to that some Apache joined the US Army as scouts to track down other Apache.

And interesting point about the Crow & Lakota today. Makes me think of my uncle (by marriage) who was a full-blood Blackfoot. I don't think he cared for any of them

The Pawnee, under the command of the North Brothers, Frank & Luther, raised two regiments of scouts to fight alongside the US Army against their enemies the Lakota Sioux.

T.

[BoldHighlander]

The Pawnee, under the command of the North Brothers, Frank & Luther, raised two regiments of scouts to fight alongside the US Army against their enemies the Lakota Sioux.

T.

Todd, I maybe wrong (and probably am), but didn't Custer at one time also have Pawnee scouts?

[macwilkin]

Todd, I maybe wrong (and probably am), but didn't Custer at one time also have Pawnee scouts?

I hadn't heard of that...I always thought his scouts were all Crows.

T.

[BoldHighlander]

I hadn't heard of that...I always thought his scouts were all Crows.

T.

I was thinking earlier, before Little Bighorn....but again, I maybe remembering incorrectly.

Anyhow, great discussion & apologies to Nighthawk for the semi-hijack of the topic.