I was in one of the glasgow kilt shops today getting a pair of kilt hose and I mentioned to the man that served me that we were having this discussion on x marks, he agreed that something has to be done about the state some of the kilts c ome back from hire. I suggested that his boss should look on this forum for some of the ideas that have been suggested, he did say that the main problem is that they cannot guarantee that if they supplied an underskirt or briefs with every kilt that was hired that these would be worn, there is no way that this could enforced. I suggested that perhaps a tariff on returning the kilt in a poor condition could be imposed.