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    Wondering if the issue is not wanting to wear anything 'under' the kilt...or not wanting to wear anything between their legs to minimize rubbing or chafing?
    For me it's the latter. It's not so much about rubbing or chafing as it is about being restrictive. As long as 'the parts' can get air and are free to do as they like without being cramped up, I'm good. Nothing's worse than sitting down in a pair of trousers (or even just a pair of boxer shorts) and having the seam try to split you up the middle. A kilt liner would definitely fit the bill for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowher View Post
    I absolutely hate my man bits dragging in the dirt if I don't.
    The mind boggles! But I don't think that is a subject best pursued in this forum.

    As someone who has never been asked "the question" I am always intrigued by these discussions and I wonder if it is inspired by the "naughty boy" syndrome, you know the kind of thing - mother always insisting you wear clean underwear in case you have an accident - and this is a rebellion against that childhood stricture. Underwear (or intimate apparel as it is primly described in America) was not generally worn until fairly recently - I will leave the historians to debate that - so is this a latent desire to return to former times? Or perhaps it is a secret desire to be daring, to become an "accidental" flasher in the misguided hope of impressing some object of desire with the get-out clause that "all of us real men in kilts go commando", just in case the object of desire complains to the police about indecent exposure. I don't really know and no doubt many will now join in with their viewpoints on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaTartan View Post
    I just called the number at the bottom of the screen in the earlier link to J'Dez. I got a recorded message that said, "You have reached Jane Doe*. This is not J'Dez. If you're calling for J'Dez, don't leave a message. This is not J'Dez. If you're calling for Jane Doe, leave a message."

    It does seem, in fact, that J'Dez is no longer in business. Furthermore, it seems that Jane is rather tired of answering calls for them. I would note that the last copyright date on the J'Dez website is 2005.

    *The names have been changed to protect the innocent.

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    Interesting thing is, the domain was last modified 8-11-2010, and expires 8-9-2011, though the contact number seems to be the same as is published on the website. Even more interesting, the contact info for the technical contact was just updated in December, which would tend to indicate a hosting change.

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    After a breezy trip around the islands of the clyde on the Waverley, I found that wearing an underskirt under the kilt, particularly when you are wearing a lightweight one, certainly helps to anchor it in these windy conditions

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    What an amazing observation Jimmy - that makes perfect sense. An underkilt would help keep the wind from getting underneath the kilt and flaring the pleats apart. Maybe there are some physics instructors who could verify that effect....?

    I used to wear tartan boxers under my kilts at work. Then one day my supervisor said a client complained they could see my underwear. Which cracked me up in view of how young gang banger wannabes wear their underwear showing above their droopy drawers. So, I switched to black undies at work.

    But dang, I think Jimmy's hit on the second best reason of all to don an underkilt of some sort.....Marilyn Monroe effect reduction. Likely deserves a thread of its own.

    And I still don't understand why kilt suppliers and kilt rental agencies don't offer/supply underkilts as a matter of course. Seems like a natural add on sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverkilt View Post
    What an amazing observation Jimmy - that makes perfect sense. An underkilt would help keep the wind from getting underneath the kilt and flaring the pleats apart. Maybe there are some physics instructors who could verify that effect....?

    I used to wear tartan boxers under my kilts at work. Then one day my supervisor said a client complained they could see my underwear. Which cracked me up in view of how young gang banger wannabes wear their underwear showing above their droopy drawers. So, I switched to black undies at work.

    But dang, I think Jimmy's hit on the second best reason of all to don an underkilt of some sort.....Marilyn Monroe effect reduction. Likely deserves a thread of its own.

    And I still don't understand why kilt suppliers and kilt rental agencies don't offer/supply underkilts as a matter of course. Seems like a natural add on sale.
    Strange isn't it, the difference in people's perceptions, you are chastised for someone seeing your underwear but everywhere you go you can see next weeks washing hanging low on the hips of these young studs.

    I certainly feel that the underskirt reduces the Marilyn Monroe effect which windy places always produce creating a problem for kilt wearers whether its at the bow of a ship or climbing upstairs on to a plane at a windy airport.

    I have mentioned before about kilt hirers in Scotland advising their clients that in the interest of hygiene that something should be worn under the kilt.
    They have often stated that the condition that some of the kilts are returned in is pretty poor and this could be easily alleviated by either an underskirt or briefs
    I believe that most men who are hire kilts are not interested in wearing anything underneath, as a person who would never wear briefs under my kilt, an underskirt is different as it allows the freedom that we all want,I can see their point but if only their toilet habits wouldn't rub off on the kilt

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    A single satin dinner napkin or bandana, lightly stitched at the four corners under the first apron will do. It's also helpful in preventing the scratchy feeling of the wool in that area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy View Post
    I believe that most men who are hire kilts are not interested in wearing anything underneath
    They may have second thoughts if If they only were told that the previous dozen plus renters shared the same desire to go with an "unfinished basement" (In the words of Bart Simpson)

    If only those kilts could talk - what stories they would share....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMcG View Post
    Freedom-wise, I hardly notice wearing boxer shorts under my kilt and that is my preferred method.
    I agree! Boxers work fine for me and are still very free.

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    The extra-long t-shirts sold as "sleep shirts" would work as a combined undershirt and underkilt:

    http://www.vermontcountrystore.com/p...l?evar3=browse
    Brian

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