At any rate, aspects of this, plus a bunch of stuff which I have no knowledge of, but is probably related, have contributed to a split between the four gentlemen I referred to.

In my sport, as small as it is, this is a tragedy. To have two legendary throwers at odds with David and the man who is considered to be the best qualified judge in North America really....well, be blunt, it SUCKS.

There's much discussion regarding professionalism in my sport, and much discussion about the relative lack of performance-enhancing drug testing.... much discussion about the vacuum created by not having a universally-recognized governing body....much discussion about how we don't NEED a universally-recognized governing body.

All of this is, to some degree tied up with the personalities involved int he Dana Point event.