Either or would do nicely. I"ve been dressed completely in black but I am not yet in the position to be putting photos up yet. (no, one of darth vader wouldn't do) I have 2 Jack shirts, 1 formal and the other informal. The "formal" one is made of really unusual material and features a leather trim around the lace area. I got the last one as apparently they have gone out of production. Have a great day.