Of the shoes discussed so far, I prefer the 'Glen Finnan' buckle style the best, though I would be unlikely to find a pair to fit my extra wide and extra thick at the instep feet. The buckle brogues that were the original topic might work if the top strap were long enough. I would prefer those to the ghillie brogues, Catholic School girls notwithstanding. As long as we are talking formal footware, let me throw out one more style of formal shoe, that I probably can't get to fit me: the 'opera pump' What say the rabble to these with your white tie kilted getup?