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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear View Post
    Thats a nice cloth! it looks alot like the weatherd hunting McLean, a tartan i was thinking about getting. So do you think it would be better to go for a worsted heavy weight wool rather than a run of the mill cloth.
    I would. You want something warm on those cold, wet, windy days! And, you want the fabric to be wool if you're going to be any place near open camp fires. Wool just smoulders, whereas polyester melts down into a boiling black slag - which you don't want on your bare legs!

    The tartan in that link I sent is around 15 oz. weight....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    I would. You want something warm on those cold, wet, windy days! And, you want the fabric to be wool if you're going to be any place near open camp fires. Wool just smoulders, whereas polyester melts down into a boiling black slag - which you don't want on your bare legs!

    The tartan in that link I sent is around 15 oz. weight....
    Yeah im going to go for heavy weight. Inverness has alot of cold days! Im still looking for tartans that catch my eye. At the momment im still big on weathered hunting tartans because they will tie in with my brown wool waistcoat and the look im going for. What do you think of them for the jacobite period? The clanranald trust sell medieval tartans! look them up on clanranaldtrust.org. They have done alot of films and tv. Including gladitator, valhala rising and a program about clencoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear View Post
    Yeah im going to go for heavy weight. Inverness has alot of cold days! Im still looking for tartans that catch my eye. At the momment im still big on weathered hunting tartans because they will tie in with my brown wool waistcoat and the look im going for. What do you think of them for the jacobite period? The clanranald trust sell medieval tartans! look them up on clanranaldtrust.org. They have done alot of films and tv. Including gladitator, valhala rising and a program about clencoe.
    If you're going for the common or middling sort of clansman look, the muted, weathered, or "earthy" look works great. Your "higher up" clan gents went in for tartans with brighter shades, often derived from expensive imported dyes.

    But, it must be said that Scottish weavers were able to produce some fairly vivid colors even using their local dyestuffs, so you really can't go wrong either way...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    If you're going for the common or middling sort of clansman look, the muted, weathered, or "earthy" look works great. Your "higher up" clan gents went in for tartans with brighter shades, often derived from expensive imported dyes.

    But, it must be said that Scottish weavers were able to produce some fairly vivid colors even using their local dyestuffs, so you really can't go wrong either way...!
    what kind of pleats do you think would be best? i have a great kilt but im not wanting to wear that to my wedding. Im going to wear a kilt and fly plaid. Is there any kind of pleat that would have been used back then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear View Post
    what kind of pleats do you think would be best? i have a great kilt but im not wanting to wear that to my wedding. Im going to wear a kilt and fly plaid. Is there any kind of pleat that would have been used back then?
    The earliest surviving little kilts have box pleats, and only contain 3-4 yards of tartan.

    Some early depictions show them pleated all the way around, like the fellow in the background here:



    ...or rather haphazardly gathered, like the boy on the right:



    Soft, unpressed box pleats are probably your best bet for a "period" philabeg....
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    Woodsheal, or anyone else, have you ever tried making bag hose like this? These are from Bob Martin's book, All About Your Kilt. I wonder how effective this pattern is. It would surely be less work than some of the other patterns.




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    Harold,
    It's hard to tell from the photos what sort of pattern is being used. It almost looks like two halves just sewn together, which would put a seam uncomfortably right under the foot!
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