A kilty wedding...

[CMcG]

And I was stressing about what was 'proper' with this wedding and a friends just before, I even asked advice in the advice forum here...then I realised that 99.9% of people won't even know the 'correct' wear was anyway...so I went with what I thought looked good and was happy in, rather than what the rules say ;-)

It's good to know the conventions of Highland attire and it is also good to feel comfortable about the way one dresses...

[TheBrus]

Sorry. I got confused. Congratulations to both of them, and many happy returns of the day.

[fingertrouble]

It's good to know the conventions of Highland attire and it is also good to feel comfortable about the way one dresses...

True - I was well aware of the fact that a) my kilt was a little too long and had slipped down by the pics above (but having to dress me and my partner in superquick time meant I had little time to adjust my belt) and b) that to some arbitrary rule apparently if you wear a Prince Charles jacket and waistcoat before 5:59 pm little kilt gremlins apparently come out and eat you. :-P Ditto kilt hose, or 'black tie'. Or the evening suit I wore to a wedding before that...I didn't get anyone say 'OMG how dare you that's not a morning suit' -they were more impressed by the dickie bow and top hat.

The fact is I couldn't afford to hire two jackets (it being a wedding that went from 2pm > late), so went for the PC as I thought it looked nicer, proper or not ;-) These rules are obviously made by people who have portable wardrobes and endless bank accounts!

Just reading through the Kilt Kops thread which I think i partly inspired by my original question and responses...I think it's good to know the rules, but also know when to break them either out of choice or they don't make sense for you or monetary reasons.

[piperdbh]

Were there any pictures of the bride and groom?

[fingertrouble]

Were there any pictures of the bride and groom?

Yes: https://picasaweb.google.com/1152465...11DadSWedding# although yes we got a lot of camera attention and are in the official photies too :-D

[davidg]

so went for the PC as I thought it looked nicer, proper or not ;-) These rules are obviously made by people who have portable wardrobes and endless bank accounts!

It's perfectly proper

Although there appears to be an American convention about not wearing a PC for a daytime wedding that is not something that necessarily applies in the UK. Here there is not only black tie and white tie (white tie being after 5pm) but there are two other formal dress conventions as well. They are: Morning dress and Court dress. For both of these a PC is entirely appropriate and a daytime wedding, where formal Morning dress is being worn, can have formal Highland Dress worn instead. Somewhere there is an official specification for Court Dress although I am not sure whether that is ever followed these days but I slightly digress

Anyway, at the end of the day a "rule" is simply a guideline. If you draw a line without using a ruler it is still a straight line. It may be a wonky straight line, because you didn't follow the rule, but it remains what it is, a perfectly proper but "unique" straight(ish) line

[Jock Scot]

It's perfectly proper

Although there appears to be an American convention about not wearing a PC for a daytime wedding that is not something that necessarily applies in the UK. Here there is not only black tie and white tie (white tie being after 5pm) but there are two other formal dress conventions as well. They are: Morning dress and Court dress. For both of these a PC is entirely appropriate and a daytime wedding, where formal Morning dress is being worn, can have formal Highland Dress worn instead. Somewhere there is an official specification for Court Dress although I am not sure whether that is ever followed these days but I slightly digress

Anyway, at the end of the day a "rule" is simply a guideline. If you draw a line without using a ruler it is still a straight line. It may be a wonky straight line, because you didn't follow the rule, but it remains what it is, a perfectly proper but "unique" straight(ish) line

I respectfully have to disagree with you there. The PC is equivalent to the Dinner suit(tux) in other words evening dress wear(black tie). The Black barathea, silver buttoned, Argyll is for formal day wear (morning suit).

Sadly hire firms have been equipping their customers with the wrong attire for years and sadly the unwitting customers know no better. I doubt if it will ever change now as the damage is now done. But there we go.

[davidg]

I respectfully have to disagree with you there.

It's perhaps interesting that I see them the opposite way around. Perhaps that reflects the difference between highland and lowland ways of doing things?

Not that long ago there was quite a trend of wearing dinner suits (Tux) at weddings anyway so a daytime Tux has a precedent set for weddings, certainly on the Glasgow side. For really formal white tie I would personally prefer a doublet

[Jock Scot]

It's perhaps interesting that I see them the opposite way around. Perhaps that reflects the difference between highland and lowland ways of doing things?

Not that long ago there was quite a trend of wearing dinner suits (Tux) at weddings anyway so a daytime Tux has a precedent set for weddings, certainly on the Glasgow side. For really formal white tie I would personally prefer a doublet

Just because people either knowingly ,or unknowingly flout a convention does not make what they do right. Is it, in this case, earth shatteringly important? No of course not!

As I have said in this case, the damage has been done and I have no doubt that a "new convention" is in the making, based, I am afraid to say, on ignorance. I think it is rather a shame, but there we go.

[Paul Henry]

Just because people either knowingly ,or unknowingly flout a convention does not make what they do right. Is it, in this case, earth shatteringly important? No of course not!

As I have said in this case, the damage has been done and I have no doubt that a "new convention" is in the making, based, I am afraid to say, on ignorance. I think it is rather a shame, but there we go.

Words , and the use of them can be very emotive, and the use of the word "damage" is very strong, and likewise the phrase " unknowingly flout a convention does not make what they do right" . You might not like, or approve, or think of it as traditional, but as you say often, it is only your opinon, just as it is the option of those that make those changes so to do.