A kilty wedding...

[CMcG]

<snip> I have trouble keeping my Ghillie Brogue laces up as well sometimes. I'm sure someone here at Xmarks will have advice on this point!?

Personally, I don't bother with the long ghillie brogue laces and just use regular length ones. I also have buckles for them, which I can attach with the laces for extra fancy events.


http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...ization-67462/

[fingertrouble]

Were there any pictures of the bride and groom?

Yes: https://picasaweb.google.com/1152465...11DadSWedding# although yes we got a lot of camera attention and are in the official photies too :-D

[davidg]

so went for the PC as I thought it looked nicer, proper or not ;-) These rules are obviously made by people who have portable wardrobes and endless bank accounts!

It's perfectly proper

Although there appears to be an American convention about not wearing a PC for a daytime wedding that is not something that necessarily applies in the UK. Here there is not only black tie and white tie (white tie being after 5pm) but there are two other formal dress conventions as well. They are: Morning dress and Court dress. For both of these a PC is entirely appropriate and a daytime wedding, where formal Morning dress is being worn, can have formal Highland Dress worn instead. Somewhere there is an official specification for Court Dress although I am not sure whether that is ever followed these days but I slightly digress

Anyway, at the end of the day a "rule" is simply a guideline. If you draw a line without using a ruler it is still a straight line. It may be a wonky straight line, because you didn't follow the rule, but it remains what it is, a perfectly proper but "unique" straight(ish) line

[davidg]

I have trouble keeping my Ghillie Brogue laces up as well sometimes. I'm sure someone here at Xmarks will have advice on this point!?

There are several different ways to tie ghillie laces. Most of us use the "high" tie with the tie being either at the front or the outside of the calf. There is also a "low" tie where the laces only reach up to the ankle

Somewhere on the web there is a You Tube video demonstrating this way of tying although it really is quite self explanatory. Try the low tie and there really is nowhere they can then fall down to

[Jock Scot]

It's perfectly proper

Although there appears to be an American convention about not wearing a PC for a daytime wedding that is not something that necessarily applies in the UK. Here there is not only black tie and white tie (white tie being after 5pm) but there are two other formal dress conventions as well. They are: Morning dress and Court dress. For both of these a PC is entirely appropriate and a daytime wedding, where formal Morning dress is being worn, can have formal Highland Dress worn instead. Somewhere there is an official specification for Court Dress although I am not sure whether that is ever followed these days but I slightly digress

Anyway, at the end of the day a "rule" is simply a guideline. If you draw a line without using a ruler it is still a straight line. It may be a wonky straight line, because you didn't follow the rule, but it remains what it is, a perfectly proper but "unique" straight(ish) line

I respectfully have to disagree with you there. The PC is equivalent to the Dinner suit(tux) in other words evening dress wear(black tie). The Black barathea, silver buttoned, Argyll is for formal day wear (morning suit).

Sadly hire firms have been equipping their customers with the wrong attire for years and sadly the unwitting customers know no better. I doubt if it will ever change now as the damage is now done. But there we go.

[CMcG]

It's perfectly proper
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Not so much, according to some (all?) of the esteemed traditionalists on this forum.

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Anyway, at the end of the day a "rule" is simply a guideline. If you draw a line without using a ruler it is still a straight line. It may be a wonky straight line, because you didn't follow the rule, but it remains what it is, a perfectly proper but "unique" straight(ish) line

This is probably a more accurate statement.

I'd rather see people kilt up than choose p@nts for fear of not being sufficiently rulebound... but as I wrote before, at least the original poster is aware of what "rules" he was breaking.

[davidg]

I respectfully have to disagree with you there.

It's perhaps interesting that I see them the opposite way around. Perhaps that reflects the difference between highland and lowland ways of doing things?

Not that long ago there was quite a trend of wearing dinner suits (Tux) at weddings anyway so a daytime Tux has a precedent set for weddings, certainly on the Glasgow side. For really formal white tie I would personally prefer a doublet

[Jock Scot]

It's perhaps interesting that I see them the opposite way around. Perhaps that reflects the difference between highland and lowland ways of doing things?

Not that long ago there was quite a trend of wearing dinner suits (Tux) at weddings anyway so a daytime Tux has a precedent set for weddings, certainly on the Glasgow side. For really formal white tie I would personally prefer a doublet

Just because people either knowingly ,or unknowingly flout a convention does not make what they do right. Is it, in this case, earth shatteringly important? No of course not!

As I have said in this case, the damage has been done and I have no doubt that a "new convention" is in the making, based, I am afraid to say, on ignorance. I think it is rather a shame, but there we go.

[Paul Henry]

Just because people either knowingly ,or unknowingly flout a convention does not make what they do right. Is it, in this case, earth shatteringly important? No of course not!

As I have said in this case, the damage has been done and I have no doubt that a "new convention" is in the making, based, I am afraid to say, on ignorance. I think it is rather a shame, but there we go.

Words , and the use of them can be very emotive, and the use of the word "damage" is very strong, and likewise the phrase " unknowingly flout a convention does not make what they do right" . You might not like, or approve, or think of it as traditional, but as you say often, it is only your opinon, just as it is the option of those that make those changes so to do.

[Jock Scot]

Words , and the use of them can be very emotive, and the use of the word "damage" is very strong, and likewise the phrase " unknowingly flout a convention does not make what they do right" . You might not like, or approve, or think of it as traditional, but as you say often, it is only your opinon, just as it is the option of those that make those changes so to do.

Oh come off it Paul! I have said----clearly----that there is a new convention in the making . It matters not one jot what I think, as people are voting with their wallet and are choosing to do something else, we are on the cusp of a change and I have said so. I have also voiced an opinion----my opinon, no one else's---- that it is rather a shame that this convention is changing, but there we go.