A kilty wedding...

[davidg]

so went for the PC as I thought it looked nicer, proper or not ;-) These rules are obviously made by people who have portable wardrobes and endless bank accounts!

It's perfectly proper

Although there appears to be an American convention about not wearing a PC for a daytime wedding that is not something that necessarily applies in the UK. Here there is not only black tie and white tie (white tie being after 5pm) but there are two other formal dress conventions as well. They are: Morning dress and Court dress. For both of these a PC is entirely appropriate and a daytime wedding, where formal Morning dress is being worn, can have formal Highland Dress worn instead. Somewhere there is an official specification for Court Dress although I am not sure whether that is ever followed these days but I slightly digress

Anyway, at the end of the day a "rule" is simply a guideline. If you draw a line without using a ruler it is still a straight line. It may be a wonky straight line, because you didn't follow the rule, but it remains what it is, a perfectly proper but "unique" straight(ish) line

[Jock Scot]

It's perfectly proper

Although there appears to be an American convention about not wearing a PC for a daytime wedding that is not something that necessarily applies in the UK. Here there is not only black tie and white tie (white tie being after 5pm) but there are two other formal dress conventions as well. They are: Morning dress and Court dress. For both of these a PC is entirely appropriate and a daytime wedding, where formal Morning dress is being worn, can have formal Highland Dress worn instead. Somewhere there is an official specification for Court Dress although I am not sure whether that is ever followed these days but I slightly digress

Anyway, at the end of the day a "rule" is simply a guideline. If you draw a line without using a ruler it is still a straight line. It may be a wonky straight line, because you didn't follow the rule, but it remains what it is, a perfectly proper but "unique" straight(ish) line

I respectfully have to disagree with you there. The PC is equivalent to the Dinner suit(tux) in other words evening dress wear(black tie). The Black barathea, silver buttoned, Argyll is for formal day wear (morning suit).

Sadly hire firms have been equipping their customers with the wrong attire for years and sadly the unwitting customers know no better. I doubt if it will ever change now as the damage is now done. But there we go.

[davidg]

I respectfully have to disagree with you there.

It's perhaps interesting that I see them the opposite way around. Perhaps that reflects the difference between highland and lowland ways of doing things?

Not that long ago there was quite a trend of wearing dinner suits (Tux) at weddings anyway so a daytime Tux has a precedent set for weddings, certainly on the Glasgow side. For really formal white tie I would personally prefer a doublet

[Jock Scot]

It's perhaps interesting that I see them the opposite way around. Perhaps that reflects the difference between highland and lowland ways of doing things?

Not that long ago there was quite a trend of wearing dinner suits (Tux) at weddings anyway so a daytime Tux has a precedent set for weddings, certainly on the Glasgow side. For really formal white tie I would personally prefer a doublet

Just because people either knowingly ,or unknowingly flout a convention does not make what they do right. Is it, in this case, earth shatteringly important? No of course not!

As I have said in this case, the damage has been done and I have no doubt that a "new convention" is in the making, based, I am afraid to say, on ignorance. I think it is rather a shame, but there we go.

[Paul Henry]

Just because people either knowingly ,or unknowingly flout a convention does not make what they do right. Is it, in this case, earth shatteringly important? No of course not!

As I have said in this case, the damage has been done and I have no doubt that a "new convention" is in the making, based, I am afraid to say, on ignorance. I think it is rather a shame, but there we go.

Words , and the use of them can be very emotive, and the use of the word "damage" is very strong, and likewise the phrase " unknowingly flout a convention does not make what they do right" . You might not like, or approve, or think of it as traditional, but as you say often, it is only your opinon, just as it is the option of those that make those changes so to do.

[Jock Scot]

Words , and the use of them can be very emotive, and the use of the word "damage" is very strong, and likewise the phrase " unknowingly flout a convention does not make what they do right" . You might not like, or approve, or think of it as traditional, but as you say often, it is only your opinon, just as it is the option of those that make those changes so to do.

Oh come off it Paul! I have said----clearly----that there is a new convention in the making . It matters not one jot what I think, as people are voting with their wallet and are choosing to do something else, we are on the cusp of a change and I have said so. I have also voiced an opinion----my opinon, no one else's---- that it is rather a shame that this convention is changing, but there we go.

[Paul Henry]

Oh come off it Paul! I have said----clearly----that there is a new convention in the making . It matters not one jot what I think, as people are voting with their wallet and are choosing to do something else, we are on the cusp of a change and I have said so. I have all so voiced an opinion----my opinon, no one else's---- that it is rather a shame, but there we go.

You have indeed made my point for me, it doesn't matter very much at all, all that is important is that people can make changes without being told they are wrong.
Change is a normal and natural part of life, of all our lives,when I was a boy computers hardly existed, and when you were a boy..... and today we can engage in all sorts of fora,and have all sorts of discussions, and have almost immediate contact and responses. Change isn't always bad, it often is just different, and often we can become frightened by it, when really we should be interested and open to see what new things there are, we might not always like the changes, but that I am afraid is what change is all about, we do not live in the past.

[CMcG]

It's perfectly proper
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Not so much, according to some (all?) of the esteemed traditionalists on this forum.

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Anyway, at the end of the day a "rule" is simply a guideline. If you draw a line without using a ruler it is still a straight line. It may be a wonky straight line, because you didn't follow the rule, but it remains what it is, a perfectly proper but "unique" straight(ish) line

This is probably a more accurate statement.

I'd rather see people kilt up than choose p@nts for fear of not being sufficiently rulebound... but as I wrote before, at least the original poster is aware of what "rules" he was breaking.