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8th October 11, 04:22 PM
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Re: Black Lager?
 Originally Posted by Joshua
Compared to the classic Black Lagers of the world (Optimator, Celebrator, Samiclaus), this one would be best left to keep around the house.
If your water gets turned off, you can use it to fill your toilet tank to flush with...
Opitmator is a Dopplebock, which is a form of a lager. I haven't had this kind, but I wonder how close it is to a Schwarzbier, or "Black Beer"?
T.
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8th October 11, 06:52 PM
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Re: Black Lager?
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Opitmator is a Dopplebock, which is a form of a lager. I haven't had this kind, but I wonder how close it is to a Schwarzbier, or "Black Beer"?
T.
This is quite true, if has a name with and ending "ator" on the end it is usually a DoppeBock. Kostritzer Schwarzbier is one of the best representations of a Schwazrbier around. Brewed originally in East block Germany it is now part of the Unified Germany. Ive had a couple of six packs of the stuff and it is rich, roasty and delicious. It has a different roast flavor than a stout due to the lager yeast as opposed to the ale yeast. Ive seen the Guinness Black Lager on the shelf and that is so far where it has remained. Xingu bier from Brazil is another very tasty black beer that Im pretty sure employs a lager yeast. It isnt easy to find but is a wonderful dark beer to drink. Though not as full flavored yet a nice black bier is Fat Tire's 1554. With fall in the air a nice strong dopplebock, a good rich porter, a nice dry stout or if you can find it a Schwarzbier. When I brewed at a pub I made a few batches of Schwarzbier that people really enjoyed.
http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/Schwarzbier.html
Prost \_/
"Greater understanding properly leads to an increasing sense of responsibility, and not to arrogance."
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8th October 11, 06:58 PM
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Re: Black Lager?
 Originally Posted by brewerpaul
This is quite true, if has a name with and ending "ator" on the end it is usually a DoppeBock. Kostritzer Schwarzbier is one of the best representations of a Schwazrbier around. Brewed originally in East block Germany it is now part of the Unified Germany. Ive had a couple of six packs of the stuff and it is rich, roasty and delicious. It has a different roast flavor than a stout due to the lager yeast as opposed to the ale yeast. Ive seen the Guinness Black Lager on the shelf and that is so far where it has remained. Xingu bier from Brazil is another very tasty black beer that Im pretty sure employs a lager yeast. It isnt easy to find but is a wonderful dark beer to drink. Though not as full flavored yet a nice black bier is Fat Tire's 1554. With fall in the air a nice strong dopplebock, a good rich porter, a nice dry stout or if you can find it a Schwarzbier. When I brewed at a pub I made a few batches of Schwarzbier that people really enjoyed.
http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/Schwarzbier.html
Prost \_/
What do you think of Dixie's Blackened Voodoo from New Orleans, Paul? It is another "black lager".
T.
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8th October 11, 07:15 PM
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Re: Black Lager?
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
What do you think of Dixie's Blackened Voodoo from New Orleans, Paul? It is another "black lager".
T.
Ive had a few of them, I dont even know if Dixie is still being brewed. It didnt seem the have the full flavor as the real Schwarzbier has. It did have a nice roasty flavor like 1554. When I was in New Orleans 3 months post Katrina the Dixie brewery had a 10 waterline stain on the outside walls. The brewery was being held together by hopes and dreams anyway so Katrina pretty much did it in. I dont know if they have reopened or are being contract brewed. If they are no longer around it gives my Dixie t-shirt that much more personal value to me. Oh Shiner has created an nice Schwarzbrier for all those Texas Shiner fans. I think it comes in the multi pack you can sometimes find in the stores. It has a good roasty rich flavor too.
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"Greater understanding properly leads to an increasing sense of responsibility, and not to arrogance."
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9th October 11, 04:20 AM
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Re: Black Lager?
 Originally Posted by brewerpaul
Ive had a few of them, I dont even know if Dixie is still being brewed. It didnt seem the have the full flavor as the real Schwarzbier has. It did have a nice roasty flavor like 1554. When I was in New Orleans 3 months post Katrina the Dixie brewery had a 10 waterline stain on the outside walls. The brewery was being held together by hopes and dreams anyway so Katrina pretty much did it in. I dont know if they have reopened or are being contract brewed. If they are no longer around it gives my Dixie t-shirt that much more personal value to me. Oh Shiner has created an nice Schwarzbrier for all those Texas Shiner fans. I think it comes in the multi pack you can sometimes find in the stores. It has a good roasty rich flavor too.
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I saw some not too long ago at the International Wine Center here in Springfield, which has a decent selection or beer, albeit not as good as they used to have -- evidently Dixie is brewing somewhere else, according to some friends in the Baton Rouge Scottish community. I'll have to ask them exactly where.
T.
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