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7th November 11, 01:08 PM
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Re: Does anyone make this style coatee?
Just out of curiosity I went over to the STA for the sitters details for Angus MacDonell here it is if you are interested:
Angus MacDonell
Born 1804; probably at the farm of Inch, on the river Speyan, parish of Kilmonivaig, in Lochaber. His father, Archibald MacDonell, was one of the original officers of the Gordon Highlanders (now 92nd Regiment), which he helped to raise. His commissions were dated - Lieutenant, 1794; Captain, 1799; Major, 1805. After 19 years' service with the 92nd in Holland, Egypt, Copenhagen, the Peninsula, etc., he became Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel, and was removed to the Veterans, 1813. He was appointed Deputy-Governor of Edinburgh Castle, 1814, but caught cold in crossing a stream on his way to Edinburgh, and died the same year. Colonel MacDonell married Miss MacLauchlan, of an old family in Argyleshire, and had four sons, the eldest of whom was killed in the peninsula, at his first battle, and one daughter. His family resided with his father at Inch during his absence with the army.
Angus, the third son, the subject of this notice, was educated at Winchester. He began life as a distiller, at Milburn, and afterwards became a farmer at Inch. He emigrated to Australia, 1855, where he still resides. He invariably wears the kilt, and is a fine specimen of a Highlander, on which account his portrait (taken before 1855) has been selected for the present illustration. He married, in 1818, Mary, only child of Colonel MacDonald, or Morar, in Arisaig. She died in Australia, 1855, leaving two sons and two daughters.
Angus MacDonell's grandfather lived and died at the farm of Inch. He was present at the battle of Culloden, when in his seventeenth year. He was a son of Alexander MacDonell, sixteenth Chief of Keppoch, who fell at Culloden, 1746. Colla Beg, or Little Colln, the fifteenth Keppoch, was well known in contemporary history, having served with his men under Dundee and Montrose, and also been 'out in 1715.' The last Clan battle in Scotland, which took place at Mulroy, near Keppoch, shortly before 1688, was fought by Colla Beg against the MacIntoshes, who were defeated. The feud arose through MacIntosh of MacIntosh laying claim to the Keppoch lands, of which his ancestors had obtained Crown charters in former generations. The Keppochs had a large tract of country in their possession, extending from Corran Ferry to Loch Laggan, in Badenoch, but had no charters for it, holding their lands, as Coll of Keppoch said, 'not be a sheepskin, but by the sword, with which their ancestors had won them.' Eventually, in 1746, the lands were altogether forfeited, and passed away to the MacIntoshes.
Victorian author Amelia Murray MacGregor separately recorded detailed notes on various of the portraits and here is what she had to say about:
Angus MacDonell. Wearing a MacDonell of Keppoch kilt. In the background a view of the corrie of Unach Mor, Inverness-shire. This portrait, painted by MacLeay before the sitter emigrated to Australia in 1855 is the prototype for the whole series. MacDonell shared a mutual great-grandfather with MacLeay. Stocky and informally dressed, and painted on a different, creamier paper, with more use of gum arabic in the painting of the eyes, this portrait clearly demonstrates how, with his later sitters, MacLeay improved on their appearance, giving them, poise, elegance and immaculate costumes, but perhaps thereby losing the immediacy of MacDonnell's portrait
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7th November 11, 01:37 PM
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Re: Does anyone make this style coatee?
It looks like the doublet I had made...
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Scotchmaster
ALBA GU BRATH!
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7th November 11, 01:58 PM
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Re: Does anyone make this style coatee?
Wonderful photo! If you take a closer look, the man second from the right, wearing the kilt and diced hose, is Willie Duff, who is one of MacLeay's sitters in The Highlanders of Scotland. There is another photo of him in Delia Miller's, Haggerston Press edition of MacLeay's folio.
Cheers!
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7th November 11, 02:15 PM
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Re: Does anyone make this style coatee?
 Originally Posted by McMurdo
Another from the vintage thread which while not exact is similar

Are you sure it's not exactly the same? Take a closer look at the first one and imagine a bit of artistic licence. It's a painting and I think the "lapels" are simply the edges of the second jacket in the photo above folded back so we see the inside of the jacket. On one side the inside of the button holes, on the other side buttons painted in for artistic effect but actually on the inside when they should really be outside, on the folded over edge, where we should not really see them
Apart from those buttons everything else aboutthe two jackets looks exact to me
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7th November 11, 02:39 PM
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Re: Does anyone make this style coatee?
The doublet in the painting is very similar to one belonging to a good friend--one I have shown here before and of which many expressed dislike. I have seen several doublets like it.

This one was made by my tailor Meyer & Mortimer.
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7th November 11, 02:41 PM
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Re: Does anyone make this style coatee?
 Originally Posted by davidg
Are you sure it's not exactly the same? Take a closer look at the first one and imagine a bit of artistic licence. It's a painting and I think the "lapels" are simply the edges of the second jacket in the photo above folded back so we see the inside of the jacket. On one side the inside of the button holes, on the other side buttons painted in for artistic effect but actually on the inside when they should really be outside, on the folded over edge, where we should not really see them
Apart from those buttons everything else aboutthe two jackets looks exact to me
Fake buttons painted on? Highly unlikely!
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7th November 11, 02:43 PM
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Re: Does anyone make this style coatee?
Very nice, Sandy!
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7th November 11, 02:43 PM
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Re: Does anyone make this style coatee?
 Originally Posted by scotchmaster
It looks like the doublet I had made...
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It looks nothing like your doublet, actually. The one in the painting has lapels.
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7th November 11, 02:55 PM
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Re: Does anyone make this style coatee?
 Originally Posted by davidg
Are you sure it's not exactly the same? Take a closer look at the first one and imagine a bit of artistic licence. It's a painting and I think the "lapels" are simply the edges of the second jacket in the photo above folded back so we see the inside of the jacket. On one side the inside of the button holes, on the other side buttons painted in for artistic effect but actually on the inside when they should really be outside, on the folded over edge, where we should not really see them
Apart from those buttons everything else about the two jackets looks exact to me
Given the detail that Kenneth MacLeay achieved with these paintings and others makes me think that they are not the same jacket. He was a miniaturist of some renown. Also there are, as can be seen in the vintage thread, several jackets that are similar to the one in the painting though not exactly the same. Something else to consider is the sheer variety of jackets in the paintings and how accurate they are to other jackets found in vintage photos etc.
Last edited by McMurdo; 7th November 11 at 03:04 PM.
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7th November 11, 03:08 PM
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Re: Does anyone make this style coatee?
 Originally Posted by McMurdo
Given the detail that Kenneth MacLeay achieved with these paintings and others makes me think that they are not the same jacket.
Maybe. But also look at the number of buttons and, particularly, that the lowest button appears to be on the other side of the front which is quite odd in itself
To me it clearly looks like a jacket that has not been fastened by choice rather than by design but it would be impossible to button with the buttons where they are placed
It's merely the impresssion I get looking at the detail but I may well be wrong
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