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    Re: Kilted in the oldest continuously occupied settlement in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by cajunscot View Post
    Oh, I don't know...he lost more battles than he won...he won by keeping the army in the field.

    No disrespect meant to His Excellency, although I tend to lean toward the Loyalist camp.

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    AHA!

    Mr. Washington did loose many battles but "The race goes not to the swift nor the battle to the strong." History is not often made by majorities but by small and dedicated minorities, whether they be good or bad.

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    Re: Kilted in the oldest continuously occupied settlement in the US

    Karl: Speaking loosely, 1670 is the late 17th century. I didn't know, or probably simply forgot, that it was during Bacon's rebellion.

    I certainly didn't recognize the tartan of your kilt on sight, but it looks just like Lochcarron's Mackenzie Weathered that can be seen at ...

    http://www.lochcarron.com/reiver/mackenzie.html

    My father's family (Blaylock) probably didn't pay their bills on time.
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    Re: Kilted in the oldest continuously occupied settlement in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by mookien View Post
    Karl: Speaking loosely, 1670 is the late 17th century. I didn't know, or probably simply forgot, that it was during Bacon's rebellion.

    I certainly didn't recognize the tartan of your kilt on sight, but it looks just like Lochcarron's Mackenzie Weathered that can be seen at ...

    http://www.lochcarron.com/reiver/mackenzie.html

    My father's family (Blaylock) probably didn't pay their bills on time.
    Thank you for the information on the tartan!

    Bills... the curse of all of us.

    I am glad you liked the pictures.

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    Re: Kilted in the oldest continuously occupied settlement in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by Kilted Karl View Post
    AHA!

    Mr. Washington did loose many battles but "The race goes not to the swift nor the battle to the strong." History is not often made by majorities but by small and dedicated minorities, whether they be good or bad.

    Your Obedient Servant,

    Karl
    True indeed. Don Higginbotham, in his excellent work George Washington and the American Military Tradition discusses how one of Washington's greatest desires was to obtain an officer's commission in the British Army. One wonders how different history would have been had the young officer of the Virginia Regiment obtained it?

    I jest about being a Tory, but I do agree with William Pitt and Edmund Burke that the American colonies were lost due to gross mismanagement and stupidity, although it must be said that the average Englishman paid almost double the taxes the average American colonist did...but that's for another forum.

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    Re: Kilted in the oldest continuously occupied settlement in the US

    Ah, a wonderful discussion and photos of things historical. Thank you gentelmen for a pleasurable read.

    Karl, I do hope you were/are able to visit the old fort south of Savannah as well. Fort King George, I think, near Darien. There's also Fort Jackson and Fort Pulaski in Savannah that offer interesting visits. The one in Darien has earethen embankments and reconstructed wooden builings as well.

    I understand that Ogilthorpe's penchant for Scots had a lot to do with the fact that they were willing to fight and would stand between the English settlements and the Spanish from Florida. I heard one amateur historian opine that it would be interesting to see the faces of the Spaniards who looked out to see the Scots marching against them wearing their kilts. An interesting thought if not completely historically correct.

    I'm pretty sure that any kilted Scots quickly lost the kilts in the humid heat of So. Georgia, although I understand that many origianlly arrived in kilts. Trust me: the heat and humidity are not condusive to comfortable kilt wearing.
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    Re: Kilted in the oldest continuously occupied settlement in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by thescot View Post
    Ah, a wonderful discussion and photos of things historical. Thank you gentelmen for a pleasurable read.

    Karl, I do hope you were/are able to visit the old fort south of Savannah as well. Fort King George, I think, near Darien. There's also Fort Jackson and Fort Pulaski in Savannah that offer interesting visits. The one in Darien has earethen embankments and reconstructed wooden builings as well.

    I understand that Ogilthorpe's penchant for Scots had a lot to do with the fact that they were willing to fight and would stand between the English settlements and the Spanish from Florida. I heard one amateur historian opine that it would be interesting to see the faces of the Spaniards who looked out to see the Scots marching against them wearing their kilts. An interesting thought if not completely historically correct.

    I'm pretty sure that any kilted Scots quickly lost the kilts in the humid heat of So. Georgia, although I understand that many origianlly arrived in kilts. Trust me: the heat and humidity are not condusive to comfortable kilt wearing.
    There was some suspicion of Oglethorpe's loyalties to the Hanoverians at one time, if memory serves me correctly. I'll need to find that reference and report back.

    T.

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    Re: Kilted in the oldest continuously occupied settlement in the US

    Wonderful pictures! Makes me miss St. Augustine again. I haven't been there in a few years now and its high time I made it back. I might even go kilted this time, who knows?

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    Castillo de San Marcos is a wonderful place and Saint Augustine is a nice, quirky town. I enjoyed both about five years ago, but not kilted. Thanks for the pics.
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    Re: Kilted in the oldest continuously occupied settlement in the US

    Great post and awesome pics, Karl! Living here in Jacksonville (a native of Jax) just north of St. Augustine I enjoy visiting often. Aren't the coquina walls of Castillo de San Marco impressive? No wonder the fort was virtually impenetrable - the soft, crunchy coquina absorbed cannon balls like shooting bb's into soft cheese! Last summer, Rathkeltair (Jax's own celt band) headlined a Celtic Music Festival in St. Augustine over a long weekend. My wife and I got a hotel room immediately beside the Old City Gates and I kilted for a completely excellent long kilted weekend! Now I've never, ever received any negative comments on kilting in Jax, and the folks in St. Augustine LOVE kilts! Although, I think the costumed reenactors and overall special feeling of St. Augustine promotes kilting, period dress, etc.

    Glad you enjoyed "St. Aug" (as the locals call it).

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