"Jacobite" garb

**Burly Brute** · 23rd January 12, 01:20 PM

I am sure this has been addressed many the time on here, but I am planning on attending my local renaissance festival and wanted to look as period as possible within regards to the 16th century highlands. I have read mixed opinions on google and am now looking to the rabble for advice. What say you rabble on 16th century, non-specific highland wear.

Sincerely,

BB

**Woodsheal** · 23rd January 12, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Burly Brute

I am sure this has been addressed many the time on here, but I am planning on attending my local renaissance festival and wanted to look as period as possible within regards to the 16th century highlands. I have read mixed opinions on google and am now looking to the rabble for advice. What say you rabble on 16th century, non-specific highland wear.

Sincerely,

BB

Linen shirt, belted plaid, Elizabethan period doublet or jerkin, period shoes or "cuarans" (highland moccasins - much cheaper than shoes!) - and you're all set...!

**Burly Brute** · 23rd January 12, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Woodsheal

Linen shirt, belted plaid, Elizabethan period doublet or jerkin, period shoes or "cuarans" (highland moccasins - much cheaper than shoes!) - and you're all set...!

Can I forgo the doublet/jerkin? And in regards to the highland moccasins, where might one purchase/DIY a pair at a low cost? I know I have seen patterns and everyone on here, but that was several months ago and of course I did not write it down.

And thanks!

I found one site that said the kilt was not the traditional clothing of the Scots in the 16th century...

**Dale Seago** · 23rd January 12, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Burly Brute

I found one site that said the kilt was not the traditional clothing of the Scots in the 16th century...

It wasn't -- hadn't been invented yet. Nor had its forerunner the belted plaid, at least for most of that century, as far as written records can determine. Up through most of that century the Gael in Scotland still dressed just like those in Ireland. You'd want to wear a leine, ionar, and brat.

**Burly Brute** · 23rd January 12, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Seago

It wasn't -- hadn't been invented yet. Nor had its forerunner the belted plaid, at least for most of that century, as far as written records can determine. Up through most of that century the Gael in Scotland still dressed just like those in Ireland. You'd want to wear a leine, ionar, and brat.

Sorry, I should have been more specific in regards to the highlands.

**Ryan Ross** · 23rd January 12, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Seago

It wasn't -- hadn't been invented yet. Nor had its forerunner the belted plaid, at least for most of that century, as far as written records can determine. Up through most of that century the Gael in Scotland still dressed just like those in Ireland. You'd want to wear a leine, ionar, and brat.

Long Live Long Shirts, as I like to say. Very comfortable.

**Burly Brute** · 24th January 12, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ryan Ross

Long Live Long Shirts, as I like to say. Very comfortable.

It is my understanding that the shirts of the time reached below the groin, is this correct? And where does one purchase something of that nature today? It might be difficult for me either way as I am long-waisted.

**Woodsheal** · 24th January 12, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Burly Brute

It is my understand that the shirts of the time reached below the groin, is this correct? And where does one purchase something of that nature today? It might be difficult for me either way as I am long-waisted.

Shirts were knee-length. These are affordable (recommend linen):

http://www.threadbarestitchery.com/1700s_Mens.htm

**Woodsheal** · 23rd January 12, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Burly Brute

Can I forgo the doublet/jerkin? And in regards to the highland moccasins, where might one purchase/DIY a pair at a low cost? I know I have seen patterns and everyone on here, but that was several months ago and of course I did not write it down.

And thanks!

I found one site that said the kilt was not the traditional clothing of the Scots in the 16th century...

We're not talking "kilts" per se, but rather "great kilts" - more properly termed belted tartan plaids. Most Scots did NOT wear them, but Highlanders did after at least the mid-1500s (first written reference is from the 1590s, which means they were most likely in use for awhile before someone sat down and wrote about 'em!). You can go with just a period shirt.

Any ol' moccasin kit will work (just cut the side flaps off these):
http://jas-townsend.com/product_info...roducts_id=246

Basically, you'll look like this:

**Burly Brute** · 23rd January 12, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Woodsheal

We're not talking "kilts" per se, but rather "great kilts" - more properly termed belted tartan plaids. Most Scots did NOT wear them, but Highlanders did after at least the mid-1500s (first written reference is from the 1590s, which means they were most likely in use for awhile before someone sat down and wrote about 'em!). You can go with just a period shirt.

Any ol' moccasin kit will work (just cut the side flaps off these):
http://jas-townsend.com/product_info...roducts_id=246

Basically, you'll look like this:

My issue is that when I think kilt, it is the belted plaid that first comes to mind. And I know what you mean, in regards to the written references. To me the belted plaid just seems a bit too "evolved" to assume it wasnt earlier, but thats opinion based on...well, nothing.

Thanks for the help!