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    Society of William Wallace fundraiser

    We held fundraiser for the Society of William Wallace at the King Robert Hotel, Bannockburn were were delighted to have some American guest's and the Society were presented with a Wallace shield from a "Great Wee Guy" who hails from Yorkshire (Gerald Thorpe)



    Ted Chrisopher, Bonnie Black from USA and George Boyle our Treasurer



    Myself with Gerald Thorpe who kindly made and donated the "Wallace Shield"



    Donovan! an American guest being shown the one of only two copies, of "The Wallace Safe conduct letter! with our Convener "Duncan Fenton" one of which was presented to the society at the Scottish Parliement!



    The Society presented Donovan with one of my handemade Jacobite thumbsticks in appreciation for organising and bringing over our American guests!



    The big surprise and highlight of the evening with Gerald Thorpe!



    The big reveal!



    Stunning!!!!

    More to follow including our American guests "The Braw Lot Fae' O'er The Watter:

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    Nice pictures.

    Sorry to be ignorant, but who exactly is Donovan? And, what is his connection to the Society of William Wallace?

    Also, what is the history surrounding the copies of the Wallace safe conduct letter? Why were copies made? Thanks.
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    Re: Society of William Wallace fundraiser

    Donovan Murray is President of Celtic Force Enterprises and formed the William Wallace Society of USA. Donovan was a good friend of David R. Ross, the Scottish historian and founder of the William Wallace Society. Donovan is a member here with the screen name of thecelticforce.

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    Re: Society of William Wallace fundraiser

    Quote Originally Posted by Mael Coluim View Post
    Donovan Murray is President of Celtic Force Enterprises and formed the William Wallace Society of USA. Donovan was a good friend of David R. Ross, the Scottish historian and founder of the William Wallace Society. Donovan is a member here with the screen name of thecelticforce.
    Mael: Thank you.

    Now, if someone will just tell me about the copies of the Wallace safe conduct letter. Were they made on a Xerox machine in recent years, or by 14th-century monks laboriously employing quills?

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    Re: Society of William Wallace fundraiser

    Since the one letter held by Wallace at his capture by the English was just returned to Scotland, I don't think there are any 14th century monks still around to copy it.

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    Re: Society of William Wallace fundraiser

    Quote Originally Posted by Mael Coluim View Post
    Since the one letter held by Wallace at his capture by the English was just returned to Scotland, I don't think there are any 14th century monks still around to copy it.
    Mael,

    Thanks. That answers my question, implicitly anyway.

    I thought perhaps, and unbeknownst to me, Edward I had copies made for the King of France, the Pope, et. al., just to show them what a good guy he was.

    And, of course, I was also alluding to those old Xerox commercials - "It's a miracle!".

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    Re: Society of William Wallace fundraiser

    Quote Originally Posted by mookien View Post
    Nice pictures.

    Sorry to be ignorant, but who exactly is Donovan? And, what is his connection to the Society of William Wallace?

    Also, what is the history surrounding the copies of the Wallace safe conduct letter? Why were copies made? Thanks.
    The Society of William Wallace were instumental in bringing the Wallace safe conduct letter back to Scotland, where it will go on display at the Scottish Parliement in August along with the Lubeck Letter.

    To mark this event the National Archives in England presented two high resolution copies of the safe conduct letter, one to Scotland's Culture Minister (Fiona Hyslop) and to the Society of William Wallace because of the fragility and age of the document it was copied under certain conditions, exposure to light can degrade this document

    The Society of William Wallace is a non-political organistion! it's aims are to promote Wallace's story, Scottish history and to celebrate Scottish identity and culture!

    Please view this clip on youtube Duncan Fenton the lad in the kilt is the Convenor of the Society of William Wallace

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEjNT...F02264543D718D
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    Re: Society of William Wallace fundraiser

    Great pics Tom, thanks for posting.
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    Re: Society of William Wallace fundraiser

    Quote Originally Posted by Foxgun Tom View Post
    The Society of William Wallace were instumental in bringing the Wallace safe conduct letter back to Scotland, where it will go on display at the Scottish Parliement in August along with the Lubeck Letter.

    To mark this event the National Archives in England presented two high resolution copies of the safe conduct letter, one to Scotland's Culture Minister (Fiona Hyslop) and to the Society of William Wallace because of the fragility and age of the document it was copied under certain conditions, exposure to light can degrade this document

    The Society of William Wallace is a non-political organistion! it's aims are to promote Wallace's story, Scottish history and to celebrate Scottish identity and culture!

    Please view this clip on youtube Duncan Fenton the lad in the kilt is the Convenor of the Society of William Wallace

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEjNT...F02264543D718D
    Thanks for the elaboration and pointer to the clip. Very interesting, and informative (to me, anyway).

    Out of context the note makes little, or no, sense. It's certainly telegraphic. I kept reading "STOP" at the end of each sentence. King Philip must have been very busy that day.

    The "safe conduct" aspect of the letter must somehow be embodied in the word "hold", which must have a different meaning than we presently, and ordinarily, ascribe to it. In fact in a cursory reading of the the note, one might assume that Philip was asking the Pope to "restrain and confine" Wallace during their discussions.
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    Re: Society of William Wallace fundraiser

    Thanks Tom for the excellent info and youtube link.

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