No "Freemason" tartan?

[Skiballa]

Wow, Canadians come up with some nice tartans.

[Chas]

Wow, Canadians come up with some nice tartans.

It is probably those long cold winter nights that turn a man's thoughts toward 16oz wool.

Regards

Chas

[macwilkin]

Grand Lodge of Scotland Tartan Information:

http://www.grandlodgescotland.com/in...417&Itemid=115

http://www.grandlodgescotland.com/in...=266&Itemid=29

Note the last two paragraphs of the "Why No Masonic Tartan?" article -- many Scottish Constitution Lodges the world over have adopted tartans as "their" tartans for various reasons. This would also include military or traveling lodges like Lodge Queen's Edinburgh Rifles (The Royal Scots) No. 1253, which was affiliated with a territorial battalion of the Royal Scots Regiment (Stewart Hunting).

And a note about the AASR:

The use of the word "Scottish" has led many Masons to believe that the Rite originated in Scotland. There was also a false belief which persisted for many years, that a man had to go to Scotland to receive the 33°. Neither of these statements is true.

Actually, the first reference to the Rite appears in old French records where the word "Ecossais," meaning Scottish, is found. During the latter part of the 17th Century, when the British Isles were torn by strife, many Scots fled to France and resumed their Masonic interests is that country. It is believed that this influence contributed to the use of the word "Scottish."

In 1732, the first "Ecossais" or Scottish Lodge, was organized in Bordeaux, one of the oldest and most influential Masonic centers in France. The membership included Scottish and English Masons. The years 1738-40 saw the formation of the first "Hauts Grades" or advanced degrees. In 1761, certain Masonic authorities in France granted a patent to Stephen Morin of Bordeaux to carry the advanced degrees across the sea to America. In 1763, Morin established these degrees in the French possessions in the West Indies. What he established consisted of a system of 25 so-called higher degrees which flourished in France, and which were known as the "Rite of Perfection."

From: http://www.aasrcleveland.org/aasr/wisr.htm

There is a body in the US AASR (Northern & Southern Jurisdictions) called the Knights of St. Andrew; many local chapters have also adopted tartans and Highland regalia. The Royal Order of Scotland, an appendant body, is Scottish in origin...but that's another story. <grin>

[AJBryant]

It is probably those long cold winter nights that turn a man's thoughts toward 16oz wool.

LOL!
Brilliant.

Thanks, guys. How the heck did I miss all those? Sigh.

I can deal with the Freemason's Universal, but... dang. I hate blue and purple. (That's also my frustration with the X-Marks the Scot tartan -- which I want to use, but can't bring myself to like.)

[Chas]

LOL!
Brilliant.

Thanks, guys. How the heck did I miss all those? Sigh.

I can deal with the Freemason's Universal, but... dang. I hate blue and purple. (That's also my frustration with the X-Marks the Scot tartan -- which I want to use, but can't bring myself to like.)

Go to http://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/index.aspx type lodge in the search - there are about another five.

Regards

Chas

[McClef]

For the same reasons that there can be no universally accepted tartan for a religion the same holds true for for the noble Craft of Freemasonry.

Each Grand Lodge is its own authority and can, indeed authorise a tartan for itself but that is not binding upon any other Grand Lodge whatsoever. A rite is still under the authority of an individual Grand Lodge which again is not binding upon another GL practicing a rite.

It is nice to have permission to wear the tartan agreed by the GL of Utah, but it would not still be recognised by my own GL - the United Grand Lodge of England (UGLE) which also covers Wales!

[BrMac]

It is nice to have permission to wear the tartan agreed by the GL of Utah, but it would not still be recognised by my own GL - the United Grand Lodge of England (UGLE) which also covers Wales!

Is recognition necessary for wearing it? I don't believe my Grand Lodge recognizes the Utah tartan either, but I think that's partly because the mere question would raise eyebrows here in Texas.

[McClef]

Is recognition necessary for wearing it? I don't believe my Grand Lodge recognizes the Utah tartan either, but I think that's partly because the mere question would raise eyebrows here in Texas.

No of course it isn't but no GL, even if interested in a tartan, is going to accept that of another officially as representing the Craft.

I would refer you back to post #9 in this thread where the link to the Grand Lodge of Scotland (the closest to the land of Tartans ) explains precisely why there can be no universal Masonic tartan.

If your GL permits you to wear tartan at Lodge then wear it with pride whatever tartan it is.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

it is probably those long cold winter nights that turn a man's thoughts toward 16oz wool.

Regards

chas

lol!

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[AJBryant]

Thanks for the additional tartans.

I guess it was too much to hope that there would be "one" Masonic tartan. Oof.