Kiltie spotted in Chicago

[Mike_Oettle]

On the other hand, why is a man of Irish heritage wearing a Scottish dress tartan (and I emphasise dress).
He should be encouraged to find something Irish or Appalachian.
Regards,
Mike

[James Hood]

Well don't that just beat all?

Huzzah to the youth with courage and self confidence sufficient to stray from the nauseatingly omnipresent bluejeans.

[Llama]

I walk right past there on my way to work. I wonder if I'll ever see the bloke.

[McClef]

On the other hand, why is a man of Irish heritage wearing a Scottish dress tartan (and I emphasise dress).
He should be encouraged to find something Irish or Appalachian.
Regards,
Mike

Mike,

By the same logic then only a Gordon should be wearing the Gordon dress tartan he is wearing.

He looks very smart, fair play to him.

[RogerWS76]

Actually, a LOT of folks from the Appalachians may claim to be Irish but rather BE from Scots descent. It follows the same logic as the term Scots-Irish. Many, many Scots migrated to the Ulster plantations under Queen Elizabeth and even more under King James the 6th and 1st. These Scots were very influential in Irish life and continued there somewhat happily until King Charles I decided that the Anglican Church folks would be much more easy to manage than either the Catholics OR the Presbytyerians in Northern Ireland and began to "fllod the market" with thiose of the Anglican persuasion. This began a wholesale emigration from Ulster to the US and Canada that lasted many years. When these Scots emmigrated to America from Ireland they were naturally called Irish by their new nieghbors who looked to their recent homeland rather than their original heritage. These Scots also, natutrally, protested that while they had most recently made their abode in Ireland they were from almost strictly Scottish descent. So, also quite naturally ther nieghbors compromised by calling them the Scotch-Irish. The upshot is that most Scots-Irish may have very little Irish in them at all, if any, while most of us (and thier descendants too) natually just figured they were a mix. BUT originally the Scots-Irish were actually the Scots who merely made a generation or two detour through Northern Ireland!

[Mike_Oettle]

On the contrary, Trefor. I didn’t even mention Clan Gordon. It was the oddness of a dress tartan on the street that I was referring to, and the fact that an Irish tartan might be more appropriate (although these are less easy to obtain than the tartans of the major Scottish clans).
I also feel that dress tartans (that is, arisaids) really ought to be worn by women, for all that a great many men (those who attend black tie and white tie events) do wear kilts in arisaids.
Regards,
Mike

[muirkirkca]

I think we should be pleased that he was wearing the kilt and that he gave good answers to the questions posed. The tartan is rather immaterial.

[McFarkus]

Good to see another kiltie in Chicago. We'd love to get in touch so he can attend our occasional outings.

Chicago is one place where, if one is wearing a kilt, one is likely to get the question, "Are you Irish?" Most folks only exposure to the kilt is from Chicago Police pipe bands most of whom are Irish.

[RockyR]

On the contrary, Trefor. I didn’t even mention Clan Gordon. It was the oddness of a dress tartan on the street that I was referring to, and the fact that an Irish tartan might be more appropriate (although these are less easy to obtain than the tartans of the major Scottish clans).
I also feel that dress tartans (that is, arisaids) really ought to be worn by women, for all that a great many men (those who attend black tie and white tie events) do wear kilts in arisaids.
Regards,
Mike

I think terms are getting a bit confused...

A dress tartan isn't masculine or feminine... it's simply a tartan. True, more often men would wear the Gordon Modern and less would wear the Gordon Dress, but it's not less masculine when made into a kilt.

An Arisaid is a form of dress (as in skirt) that women wear. It can be made in any tartan and it is for women.

I think he looks well put together for a Casual outfit and gave good answers to common questions.

[Jock Scot]

I think terms are getting a bit confused...

A dress tartan isn't masculine or feminine... it's simply a tartan. True, more often men would wear the Gordon Modern and less would wear the Gordon Dress, but it's not less masculine when made into a kilt.

An Arisaid is a form of dress (as in skirt) that women wear. It can be made in any tartan and it is for women.

I think he looks well put together for a Casual outfit and gave good answers to common questions.

I too was beginning to wonder if there was a misunderstanding going on here. There is a big difference between a dress tartan, as in formal attire and an arisaid, as in a woman's tartan dancing attire(for example) which does often have some white in it. Well done for clarifying things--------------just in case there was a misunderstanding..