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16th October 12, 07:54 AM
#1
Styles come and styles go. Ties hang short or way down low. I don't mind either. I have worn them a little below the top of the kilt, just short of it, and quite short, (as in the days of Oliver Hardy). All different looks, all nice. I also wear a bow tie often. I wear a waistcoat often but do not wear one in the warm summer days. I have never tucked one in my kilt top. That time may come but I just haven't found it necessary yet.
Tobus, you have an enviable collection of jackets. That second one is a stunner. Is it Harris?
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16th October 12, 08:44 AM
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 Originally Posted by tulloch
Styles come and styles go. Ties hang short or way down low. I don't mind either. I have worn them a little below the top of the kilt, just short of it, and quite short, (as in the days of Oliver Hardy). All different looks, all nice. I also wear a bow tie often. I wear a waistcoat often but do not wear one in the warm summer days. I have never tucked one in my kilt top. That time may come but I just haven't found it necessary yet.
Good point on the bow ties. That eliminates the length problem, eh? I've only cautiously waded into bow tie territory, but will be doing more of it this winter (when I can actually wear a jacket with it).
Tobus, you have an enviable collection of jackets. That second one is a stunner. Is it Harris?
I'd have to look again, but I don't think so. It was made by Hugh MacPherson, Edinburgh, but I don't remember seeing a Harris tweed label inside. At any rate, even if it were, that fabric is no longer available (that I've found, anyway). I agree, though: that jacket is a stunner. It's my favourite one.
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16th October 12, 08:57 AM
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Looking to the clan chief is an idea I had not thought of. The Duke of Argyll maintains quite the enviable collection of kilt accouterments, but often dresses with just a tie and jacket...
Ne Obliviscaris
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16th October 12, 09:38 AM
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I think there is a danger of over-thinking all this. Surely we must have a discretion sense lurking in our brain that knows what looks right even with a minor matter like tie length that theoretically is a tad too long. Now these clan chiefs whose pictures are being used for illustration purposes have been around kilts for more than a wee while and know what works and are quite happy with an extra inch or two of tie length. Guidelines are there to guide and not to be rigidly, even slavishly, adhered to.
Now here we are again with shades of the "too traditional" appearing and well into kilt wearing subtleties that only a lifetime of kilt wearing that allows these adjustments to one's attire and to get away with it! Which must be confusing, very confusing even, to those who are fairly new to all this and are desperately trying to find the formula that works and avoids the rather rigid look of those trying to understand the almost, it seems, impossible.
Solution? A saying that I read somewhere just today:" a mind is like a parachute, it only works when its open". That and lots of experience!
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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16th October 12, 10:12 AM
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 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I think there is a danger of over-thinking all this.
Indeed Jock, but it gives us something to talk about, does it not?
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16th October 12, 10:18 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by creagdhubh
Indeed Jock, but it gives us something to talk about, does it not? 
Well, at least I got a few more words from you than the customary ***!
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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16th October 12, 10:20 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Well, at least I got a few more words from you than the customary ***! 
Hahahahaha!!!! Fair enough!
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16th October 12, 10:06 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by Tobus
It was made by Hugh MacPherson, Edinburgh, but I don't remember seeing a Harris tweed label inside. At any rate, even if it were, that fabric is no longer available (that I've found, anyway). I agree, though: that jacket is a stunner. It's my favourite one. 
Well done! Hugh's grand-daughter now runs the shop in Edinburgh. This is where the famous, "Cluny's tweed" was invented.
Cheers,
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