mathia arms?

[JSFMACLJR]

A quick look at both volumes of "An Ordinary of Arms" indicates that no arms have been granted to anyone with the surname of Mathia by the Court of the Lord Lyon. Of course vol. 2 of the Ordinary ends in 1973; perhaps a grant has been made since that date.

[piperdbh]

Thanks, Sandy. I've looked at websites that are trying to sell stuff with crests and such, but didn't know where to look for "real" answers.

[Father Bill]

I'm going to stick my oar into a pond where I have no navigational charts and probably just muddy the waters, but the question that comes to my mind is the derivation of the name Mathia. Being a priest what came to my mind immediately was "Matthias" which is an old, old form of "Matthew."

This does not mean that the name is "Matthew," it just makes me think that knowing the origins of the name as it is used in your family might lead you up another path. I say "as it is used in your family" because names often have a widely and wildly divergent set of origins that end up looking the same.

I wish you well in your search!

[Chas]

Hello dbh,

There is also no 'Mathia' in The General Armoury. There is on the other hand a Mathias.



There is a doubt about this depiction as the blazon (written description) states "Gules (red) three dice Argent (white) arranged two and one on each die six spots in front, two at top and three on the sinister side Sable (the spots being black)."

As you can see the emblazonment above does not match the official blazon.

The bearer of these arms came from Pembrokeshire in Wales.

His crest was "a stag trippant Proper armed Or" (a walking stag in natural colours with golden antlers)

Regards

Chas

[McMathTX]

If Mathia is a sept of Clan Matheson, then yes, Lochalsh could be a place of origin for the surname. My surname, McMath, is tied to that clan although it is also a possibility that we came from the Ayrshire area which is no where near Lochalsh. Good luck in your research!
Dean

[saharris]

My copy of "The General Armory" (1884) has the same info as Chas. Nothing for Mathia, but two entries for Mathias.

Mathias (Lampher Court and LLangwarren, co Pembroke)
Arms – Gu three dice ar two and one, on each die six spots in front, two at top, and three on the sinister side sa
Crest – A stag trippant ppr armed or

Mathias
Arms – same
Crest – Out of a ducal cornoet a broken battle axe.