mathia arms?

[piperdbh]

Who can tell me where to find the arms of Mathia? I realize that arms belong to a person, and not to a family, but it's still interesting to learn about. Also, I read somewhere on the Web that the Mathia surname comes from the area around Lochalsh and the Hebrides. Does anyone know if this is true, or can you point me to an accurate website to investigate on my own?
Many thanks.

[JSFMACLJR]

A quick look at both volumes of "An Ordinary of Arms" indicates that no arms have been granted to anyone with the surname of Mathia by the Court of the Lord Lyon. Of course vol. 2 of the Ordinary ends in 1973; perhaps a grant has been made since that date.

[piperdbh]

Thanks, Sandy. I've looked at websites that are trying to sell stuff with crests and such, but didn't know where to look for "real" answers.

[Father Bill]

I'm going to stick my oar into a pond where I have no navigational charts and probably just muddy the waters, but the question that comes to my mind is the derivation of the name Mathia. Being a priest what came to my mind immediately was "Matthias" which is an old, old form of "Matthew."

This does not mean that the name is "Matthew," it just makes me think that knowing the origins of the name as it is used in your family might lead you up another path. I say "as it is used in your family" because names often have a widely and wildly divergent set of origins that end up looking the same.

I wish you well in your search!

[Chas]

Hello dbh,

There is also no 'Mathia' in The General Armoury. There is on the other hand a Mathias.



There is a doubt about this depiction as the blazon (written description) states "Gules (red) three dice Argent (white) arranged two and one on each die six spots in front, two at top and three on the sinister side Sable (the spots being black)."

As you can see the emblazonment above does not match the official blazon.

The bearer of these arms came from Pembrokeshire in Wales.

His crest was "a stag trippant Proper armed Or" (a walking stag in natural colours with golden antlers)

Regards

Chas

[McMathTX]

If Mathia is a sept of Clan Matheson, then yes, Lochalsh could be a place of origin for the surname. My surname, McMath, is tied to that clan although it is also a possibility that we came from the Ayrshire area which is no where near Lochalsh. Good luck in your research!
Dean

[saharris]

My copy of "The General Armory" (1884) has the same info as Chas. Nothing for Mathia, but two entries for Mathias.

Mathias (Lampher Court and LLangwarren, co Pembroke)
Arms – Gu three dice ar two and one, on each die six spots in front, two at top, and three on the sinister side sa
Crest – A stag trippant ppr armed or

Mathias
Arms – same
Crest – Out of a ducal cornoet a broken battle axe.

[Jock Scot]

Who can tell me where to find the arms of Mathia? I realize that arms belong to a person, and not to a family, but it's still interesting to learn about. Also, I read somewhere on the Web that the Mathia surname comes from the area around Lochalsh and the Hebrides. Does anyone know if this is true, or can you point me to an accurate website to investigate on my own?
Many thanks.

Not a name I am familiar with and one way or another, I have lived very near and travelled the areas you mention for over 70 years and have never come across the name. Well alright that is quite possible, so I did a quick check in the relevant telephone directories and there is no mention of a Mathia. Sorry.

[Chas]

Not a name I am familiar with and one way or another, I have lived and travelled the areas you mention for over 70 years and have never come across the name. Well alright that is quite possible, so I did a quick check in the relevant telephone directories and there is no mention of a Mathia. Sorry.

Jock's post got me thinking and searching.

From http://www.britishsurnames.co.uk/surnames/MATHIA

Today there are 18 people named Mathia in the UK

In 1881, at the national census, there were only 3. So they are breeding, but an increase of 15 in over a 100 years is not very impressive. More effort needed, I think.

Whereas there are currently 394 in the US but only 2 in Australia.

I wonder if this has anything to do with the quality of TV programs in these countries?

Regards

Chas

[piperdbh]

Thanks for all the responses. You're confirming what I had thought: that the websites I had read were trying to sell me something. Mathia is the Mrs.'s family name, and their understanding is that it comes from Germany, through Mat(t)hias.