Pleating challenge #5: getting a precise pleating to the stripe

[creagdhubh]

Barb,

Was this a similar issue with my kilt in the Macpherson Reproduction colours? As you are well aware, my initial choice of pleating was to the (double white) stripe; however, after pinning you had recommended (and I agreed) that I pleat to the sett due to the fact that by pleating to the double white stripes with this particular sett woven by D.C. Dalgliesh, would cause the stripes to have a highly condensed, or "jammed" appearance - especially near the waist area of the kilt where most of the red colour would virtually disappear.

[Barb T]

Yes - exactly!

[Dani Mac]

Barb,

Was this a similar issue with my kilt in the Macpherson Reproduction colours? As you are well aware, my initial choice of pleating was to the (double white) stripe; however, after pinning you had recommended (and I agreed) that I pleat to the sett due to the fact that by pleating to the double white stripes with this particular sett woven by D.C. Dalgliesh, would cause the stripes to have a highly condensed, or "jammed" appearance - especially near the waist area of the kilt where most of the red colour would virtually disappear.

Could you please post a photo of the pleating to the sett on this kilt? I'm going to be working with a similar Macpherson and would like to start getting a feel for the pleating.

[Barb T]

Well, in pleating to the sett, the kilt will look just like the tartan, so, I'm not sure what a picture would actually show that would help in making a kilt. When you pleat to the sett, you try to pick up each of the tartan elements so that the back looks as much like the tartan as possible. What elements you pick up depends on the size of the pleats, and that varies with the size of the person and the amount of tartan you have. If I were making 3 kilts in the same tartan for 3 different-size people, it's very likely that the pleats in each of the kilts would pick up different elements. But the overall result would look the same - the kilt will look pretty much the same in the pleats and in the apron.

But in any event, I didn't take a picture of the MacPherson kilt that I made for Kyle before I shipped it to him (added later - actually not true - see post below after Kyle's). If he were willing, he might post a picture so that you can see what it looks like. But the pleats will look pretty much like the front of the kilt!

[creagdhubh]

Well, in pleating to the sett, the kilt will look just like the tartan, so, I'm not sure what a picture would actually show that would help in making a kilt. When you pleat to the sett, you try to pick up each of the tartan elements so that the back looks as much like the tartan as possible. What elements you pick up depends on the size of the pleats, and that varies with the size of the person and the amount of tartan you have. If I were making 3 kilts in the same tartan for 3 different-size people, it's very likely that the pleats in each of the kilts would pick up different elements. But the overall result would look the same - the kilt will look pretty much the same in the pleats and in the apron.

But in any event, I didn't take a picture of the MacPherson kilt that I made for Kyle before I shipped it to him. If he were willing, he might post a picture so that you can see what it looks like. But the pleats will look pretty much like the front of the kilt!

Quite right, Barb. I have yet to take any photos, as my intial fitting was last night (and the kilt is absolutely gorgeous and fits perfectly, Barb! Thank you again!), but I will in the next day or two and shall get them uploaded onto the forum in due course. Dani Mac: Meantime, take a look at a swatch of the said tartan below. It's the Macpherson Reproduction colours (heavyweight range) woven by D.C. Dalgliesh.



Na bean don chat,

[Barb T]

Kyle had originally asked to have it pleated to the double white stripe. Because the double white has an interior double dark brown and a central red, the outside edges of the white stripes are far apart - farther apart than the outside edges of the double blue in the Grant in the original post above. When I did a test pinning (below), I thought that the white stripes looked kind of crowded together without enough red on each side, so I suggested to Kyle that he consider pleating to the sett. This is always a matter of personal preference, of course!



And it turns out that I _did_ take a pic of Kyle's kilt with my iPad before I sent it (it was such a terrible pic that I thought I'd deleted it). The pic below is low res, and the colors aren't very good, but it does clearly show that, because the kilt is pleated to the sett, the front and back look essentially the same. Kyle will post some better pics!

[Dani Mac]

Thanks for the photo. I understand about pleating to the sett. That's what I am doing with the Macpherson Modern Hunting I'm working on. I'm interested in seeing a close up of Kyle's to see an example of how the elements were picked out for the pleats. The reproduction is similar to the red muted that I'll be working with next.
Kyle, thanks for the photo. What a beautiful tartan and what a beautiful kilt!

[Barb T]

Maybe Kyle can post some pics of his kilt?

The main thing to remember is that you likely wouldn't pick the tartan elements exactly the same way for a kilt of a different size/shape.