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27th March 13, 05:15 PM
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With all these wonderful, once in a lifetime activities and events going on, I wonder why they all steadfastly refuse to give us the one activity that people are crying out for? By this I mean the mass parade of the clans. It surely cannot be beyond the wit of man to organise a 1 mile march through an urban area with pipebands and flags flying! It worked in 2009 and could do so again in 2014. But instead they want us to wander round the highlands and islands and get back to our roots in our clan lands. It can't happen at Bannockburn during the three day celebrations - there aren't the facilities. This is not what the public want.
Regards
Chas
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27th March 13, 10:19 PM
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Here is what I, as a potential guest in the country would like to see:
Bannockburn battle reenactment, history and art lectures from eminent scholars, Scottish musical performances, and a GIANT MOTHER OF ALL CLAN MARCHES!!!
That is, I guarantee, the number one attraction that most foreign tourists will want...a giant clan march. Seeing the most of the coumtry is desirable but notmnecessarily possible. The point of 2014 is to connect it all AT BANNOCKBURN!
Are tourist packages including event tickets/passes going to be available? If not then why not? Some of us (indeed, many) will be making our first trip to Scotland in 2014.
Lasso us in! We want to give you our money.
The Official [BREN]
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5th April 13, 01:54 PM
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Do not count me in as wanting a giant clan march. I much prefer the clan tents. OTOH, I prefer neither and will participate in neither until the vote for independence has come and gone.
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28th March 13, 12:32 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by Chas
With all these wonderful, once in a lifetime activities and events going on, I wonder why they all steadfastly refuse to give us the one activity that people are crying out for? By this I mean the mass parade of the clans. It surely cannot be beyond the wit of man to organise a 1 mile march through an urban area with pipebands and flags flying! It worked in 2009 and could do so again in 2014. But instead they want us to wander round the highlands and islands and get back to our roots in our clan lands. It can't happen at Bannockburn during the three day celebrations - there aren't the facilities. This is not what the public want.
Regards
Chas
Absolutely Chas couldn't agree more.
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Simon
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28th March 13, 02:46 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Chas
With all these wonderful, once in a lifetime activities and events going on, I wonder why they all steadfastly refuse to give us the one activity that people are crying out for? By this I mean the mass parade of the clans. It surely cannot be beyond the wit of man to organise a 1 mile march through an urban area with pipebands and flags flying! It worked in 2009 and could do so again in 2014. But instead they want us to wander round the highlands and islands and get back to our roots in our clan lands. It can't happen at Bannockburn during the three day celebrations - there aren't the facilities. This is not what the public want.
Regards
Chas
Its not what the public want? Really? It, I think, depends on which public are you meaning? The visiting public? Or the resident public?
Now I cannot speak for Scotland, but I can tell you what I see and hear. If we just go back to 2009 for a wee while and let us not get mired in the detail, but suffice to say that much of Scotland were distinctly underwhelmed by the whole Homecoming event from start to finish and make no mistake those antics have left a lasting legacy of suspicion and lack of enthusiasm for any more of it.
Well of course there is a huge commercial side to all this and that should not be forgotten, but it would be unwise to forget the local public in all this and two of the major criticisms of 2009 from the locals was that only Edinburgh was involved and the whole event was hi-jacked by those outwith Scotland right from the outset. So, I suppose this time round the powers that be are at least trying to be more inclusive.
I was listening to a very enlightening discussion yesterday, between a group of Scottish School leavers who were debating properly at school and if I might say so, very well, "Scotland and its future after 2014, regardless of the referendum result". Very interesting stuff! Now I am not going into detail on that subject, but one speaker spoke very eloquently about Scotland becoming an outpost of Walt Disney and how demeaning for Scotland the tourist industry had become and how that must change. Hummm, careful chaps when demanding things of Scotland, times may be a changing in more ways than one!
Last edited by Jock Scot; 28th March 13 at 03:57 AM.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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28th March 13, 05:45 AM
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it would be unwise to forget the local public in all this and two of the major criticisms of 2009 from the locals was that only Edinburgh was involved and the whole event was hi-jacked by those outwith Scotland right from the outset.
So true.
Feelings are still raw among many Scots over the 2009 Edinburgh gathering fiasco.
For example the refusal by the organiser to allow Scottish based clan and family societies to host our visitors and instead so-called clan tents were imposed, staffed by overseas groups.
A hefty charge was levied on people who wanted to participate in the clan march along public streets. I have never yet paid for the privilege of taking part in a clan march, either in Scotland or USA. As some of you may recall I did my own kilted march along the Edinburgh route at no cost on a different day.
Despite the rip off prices the show was very poor compared to some of Scotland's regular highland games such as Aboyne and North Berwick for example, and worse still, the hard working Scottish based performers and the tradesmen who set it all up were never paid because the organiser liquidated the gathering company.
I could go on but there is no point in re-hashing old sores.
The last so-called "clan gathering" in 2009 left such a bad taste that few Scots would welcome another. Time is a great healer so it could happen again but there needs to be the will in Scotland to make it happen and it needs to be organised by the Scots Clans.
Last edited by cessna152towser; 28th March 13 at 05:48 AM.
Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.
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28th March 13, 09:57 AM
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 Originally Posted by cessna152towser
Time is a great healer so it could happen again but there needs to be the will in Scotland to make it happen and it needs to be organised by the Scots Clans.
Alex, I have to agree with what you say there. There is no room for demands or 'what should be done' from those of us non-Scotts (Scottish decent or not).
My wife and I are planning to visit Scotland for the Bannockburn celebration in 2014 but, we will come humbly and with respect to our friends who live there, much as we would expect from visitors to our area.
Events like this are intended for everyone who is interested in their heritage, not for our specific personal enrichment.
It seems that our society (esp. here in the USA) is caught up in the "I want it all, I want it my way and I want it now?" approach with little patience or understanding for others. You might say the "me" instead of the "us" mentality.
Nile
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28th March 13, 10:09 AM
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Thank you Nile and I hope you both have a super time over here next year.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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28th March 13, 08:18 AM
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 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Its not what the public want? Really? It, I think, depends on which public are you meaning? The visiting public? Or the resident public?
Well of course there is a huge commercial side to all this and that should not be forgotten, but it would be unwise to forget the local public in all this and two of the major criticisms of 2009 from the locals was that only Edinburgh was involved and the whole event was hi-jacked by those outwith Scotland right from the outset.!
There were other events going on around Scotland that year, Jock, but I suppose the clan march etc. in Edinburgh was the one that caught the imagination here (for obvious kilt-related reasons). I enjoyed a day out in Holyrood Park but mainly because it was handy for me in Edinburgh and also the price of the tickets dropped nearer the time. I don't think I would have bothered travelling any distance for it, however, so understand your particular viewpoint and lack of enthusiasm. The whole thing was really just a tourist event anyway as few Scots would be inclined to spend good money just to walk up the Royal Mile in a kilt, especially if they can do it any day of the week anyway!
As to the next instalment in 2014. Well it does coincide with a number of other events, as you say, so maybe they will try to get the locals more fired up this time.
By the way I found this interesting article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William...h_Lord_Sempill
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28th March 13, 10:11 AM
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 Originally Posted by Chas
With all these wonderful, once in a lifetime activities and events going on, I wonder why they all steadfastly refuse to give us the one activity that people are crying out for? By this I mean the mass parade of the clans. It surely cannot be beyond the wit of man to organise a 1 mile march through an urban area with pipebands and flags flying! It worked in 2009 and could do so again in 2014. But instead they want us to wander round the highlands and islands and get back to our roots in our clan lands. It can't happen at Bannockburn during the three day celebrations - there aren't the facilities. This is not what the public want.
Regards
Chas
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