Scots Language Wikipedia

[TheOfficialBren]

Awesome.

[neloon]

Awesome.

Not the word I would use!

Alan

[kilted scholar]

Not the word I would use!

Alan

I agree.

[TheOfficialBren]

Good grief. I appreciate the cultural relevance.
Get off my toes.

[ThistleDown]

They can't you're standing on them.

[Chas]

I don't understand. Are some of you trying to imply that Scots is not a language? Well, if so, you would be wrong.

If you are arguing about spelling, that, of course, is all debatable. But the opinions expressed here, on the subject, are no more valid than those expressed there.

So, guys, what do you mean?

Regards

Chas

[McElmurry]

I am certainly no expert on the subject but the writing on the site in question does not resemble the little bit of Burns poetry I have attempted to wade through nor the odd bit of Scots dialect used on XMTS, to my admittedly untrained eye.


EDIT

The site appears to use phonetic spelling

Here at Wikipaedia it's recommendit that fowk uises "tradeetional" pan-dialect spellins. Awtho thir isna sae strict as in Inglis we ettle tae come up wi writin that's easy tae read an can be soondit bi readers in thair ain dialect. Ae thing tae mynd is that maist fowk that kens better disna uise the apologetic apostrophe onymair. Mair oot ower evyte slang in an encyclopaedia.

[neloon]

I don't understand. Are some of you trying to imply that Scots is not a language? Well, if so, you would be wrong.

If you are arguing about spelling, that, of course, is all debatable. But the opinions expressed here, on the subject, are no more valid than those expressed there.

So, guys, what do you mean?

Regards

Chas

We have been here before once or twice! The European Bureau of Lesser Used Languages says Scots is not a language so I'm afraid it isn't. Not nowadays. End of.

When asked in pilot studies to do with Census questions, Glaswegians (who make up the vast, vast majority of Scots) say they speak "Glaswegian" or "slang" e.g. "Gonnae no dae that".
Of course, there was such a language as Scots with many dialects - I grew up speaking Doric and if I were to be heard talking with country folk around here the conversation would be pretty unintelligible even to those from elsewhere in Scotland. But the Scots language activists who must be the authors of the page in question - and I know many of them, they are great people - have invented a "Scots" that nobody uses nor ever did. Just as there are those who invent new tartans - fine, but not really "awesome". I fear that, very regrettably, less than 1% of Scots would have the foggiest idea what is going on on this Wiki site. A "leid" is something for keeping your dog under control!
That is not to say that native Scots do not scatter old Scots words around their conversation in a rather embarassed kind of way and many may be able to understand a good deal of, say, Burns' poetry. But even the most gentle suggestion of introducing Scots language (or even literature) into schools has generally met with considerable opposition from teachers (who feel unequal to the task) and from parties other than the SNP (because of perceived political manipulation).

Now, don't get me wrong - I am very close to research into what is going on here and I wish the situation were otherwise. But it is just wishful thinking. Certainly not "awesome". If Scotland is to have a second language, it will be Gaelic which currently has economic benefits and an international component, neither of which Scots has. Facs are chiels at jist winna ding.

Alan