Juice Fast Adventure

[SeumasA]

Throw in a little cayenne and you'll never notice the celery.

[TheSp8]

I just heard a story on NPR about a 5/2 something kind of lifestyle - eat decent food 5 days and "sort of" fast for 2 days (very low or no carbs but you can eat lean protein)

On the fast days with this plan males get 600 calories and females get 500 calories. How and when you use those calories is up to you but protein lasts longer than carb based calories. Since yesterday was a fast day I ate two meals, breakfast and supper. Breakfast was one egg and 2 oz of sliced ham made into a ham omlet with extra ham on the side for 130 calories. We were lazy for supper and had a salad, mine was 330 calories of which 200 came from 8 oz of chicken. The left over 140 calories was spent on a whiskey cola while watching a movie. On non-fast days we eat a widely varied menu featuring

There are some good juicing recipes online that we have used in our Vita Mix so don't give up hope in your son's juicing. Once you find a couple that you like then it'll be easier to stick with it. At least it has been for us.

YMOS,
Tony

[Aussie_Don]

The initial comments that I made in this thread were based
on some things that I'd learned about my family genetics.
It seems that my ancestors had an unfortunate ability to
turn sugars in their food into cholesterol in their bloodstream.

It worries me that the diet that you are embracing has
a lot of fruit in it. To my way of thinking, fruit==sugar and
sugar==cholesterol.

Of course, that may just be the case for my family, but I'd
be careful about too much sugar-rich food in whatever you
are eating. More complex carbohydrates may be safer.

-Don

[HippieLee]

On the fast days with this plan males get 600 calories and females get 500 calories. How and when you use those calories is up to you but protein lasts longer than carb based calories. Since yesterday was a fast day I ate two meals, breakfast and supper. Breakfast was one egg and 2 oz of sliced ham made into a ham omlet with extra ham on the side for 130 calories. We were lazy for supper and had a salad, mine was 330 calories of which 200 came from 8 oz of chicken. The left over 140 calories was spent on a whiskey cola while watching a movie. On non-fast days we eat a widely varied menu featuring

There are some good juicing recipes online that we have used in our Vita Mix so don't give up hope in your son's juicing. Once you find a couple that you like then it'll be easier to stick with it. At least it has been for us.

YMOS,
Tony

Thanks for the info! We'll keep experimenting with juice (I like the concept at any rate) and I am gonna look into this other plan - I don't eat much on weekends anyway so it might be pretty easy to adapt to eating right on weekends lol...

[Hopper250]

My mom is doing a juice thing, not sure if its actual fasting but her juice is, baby spinach, crushed pinapple, and home cutured yogurt. It is quite good.

[piperdbh]

Regarding celery in juice: use it like you would use salt. A little celery goes a long way, and is used as a seasoning. Regarding meat: the Mrs. & I went vegan 7 years ago and it was one of the best decisions we've made. Lots of vegs and fruits, lots of fresh juices and cutting out white flour & sugar is hard to do at first, but after a while the taste buds and cravings change.

[Mael Coluim]

Regarding celery in juice: use it like you would use salt. A little celery goes a long way, and is used as a seasoning. Regarding meat: the Mrs. & I went vegan 7 years ago and it was one of the best decisions we've made. Lots of vegs and fruits, lots of fresh juices and cutting out white flour & sugar is hard to do at first, but after a while the taste buds and cravings change.

All of a sudden I have a craving for fruitcake!

[Silk]

I own several books on fasting and think it is one of the best ways to recover your health (in most situations.) I haven't really fasted myself though except for spiritual purposes but I do think in cases of illness it serves a real purpose (or in this case, for weight control, I've read some on that too.) Good luck!

Silk

[tripleblessed]

Having discovered the hard way that many here prefer their precious junk science and "It worked for me" to
real science, let me open by saying wider reading is always appropriate. Asking who funded the research is vital.
Who did the research is crucial; keep in mind the scandals of the past few years of faked and cherry-picked
studies. This is not a new phenomenon. Some diets resurface from time to time, referring back to research
that rings a bell, so it must, therefore, be good. Not so.

Major changes of any kind will produce results, often in the direction one wants to go. That does not necessarily
indicate continued good result over longer application.

Fruits are so rarely a problem as to be ignored until a problem surfaces. The problem is almost always related to
one of two things: ADDED sugars or the failure to juice the whole fruit, i.e., all you would eat if eating fresh. The
fiber in the fruit affects how the body processes the juice, so just extracting juice and discarding pulp can lead to
problems over time. Added fructose, especially corn fructose, is virtually always a problem. Corn fructose is fine
when left in corn, not so much when extracted and added to other foods.

High protein/low carb can be beneficial in the short run, less so in the long run.

Before the howling begins, let me just say this ain't my first rodeo in this area, and the first didn't happen in the last
twenty-five years. I've seen a lot of things come and go, and come back again, generating the same problems as
before. There's a reason I have spoken, by invitation, on health and healing on five continents. I've invested a lot
of time and effort into helping people rebuild after diet damage, and heartbreak when people won't make good choices.
End of story. Just yesterday I was asked yet again by a physician, a professor of medicine, how he should proceed
in rebuilding. Your choices are choices are your own, and welcome to them. Offering info, not medical advice. Not
trying to start an online practice or play the troll. Enjoy your food, whatever it might be.

[Hopper250]

All of a sudden I have a craving for fruitcake!

Just get one from the Trappist monks in Arkansas. Those guys make a fruitcake you can't have if your under 21. It also lasts for months. Mine is still good, smells the same and no mold, holding space in the fridge until Christmas. I got it in March or April.