The Single Eagle Feather

[cessna152towser]

One you have your personal Arms, it is unlikely you would wish to wear your clan badge on your cap in preference to your personal Arms, so the question is indeed probably academic.
As it is illegal to purchase eagle feathers here in Scotland, I got a cap badge specially made which incorporates my Personal Arms and an ornamental silver small eagle feather, as is normal practice nowadays with Armigers appointed in recent times.

[Woot22]

But could you, I guess legally speaking, wear an eagle feather behind your clan badge? I just it seemed interesting is all, that you might be "allowed" to wear an eagle feather with a clan badge that you may only have very negligible association with, for instance if you were one of the many sept family names under a larger clan.

[Carlo]

From what I read, the eagle feather says that the wearer does have his own arms.
If he wears his own arms/badge why would he nead a feather? The badge would show it.
On the other hand you might want to be recognisable as a member of a clan and therefore wear the clan badge. At that time it makes sense to wear the feather to show that you would have your own arms.

Obviously I might be wrong. What I'm saying is, that from my point of view the feather makes more sense when worn with the clan badge.

[Woot22]

From what I read, the eagle feather says that the wearer does have his own arms.
If he wears his own arms/badge why would he nead a feather? The badge would show it.
On the other hand you might want to be recognisable as a member of a clan and therefore wear the clan badge. At that time it makes sense to wear the feather to show that you would have your own arms.

Obviously I might be wrong. What I'm saying is, that from my point of view the feather makes more sense when worn with the clan badge.

Yeah, actually that does make sense putting it that. I always just thought it would seem odd to wear the feather with a clan badge because of the ambiguous nature as to the history of septs and extended families in clans. But when you put it like that I agree it actually makes more sense to wear it with a clan badge.

[Hawk]

Let me add just a tidbit of info here in reference wearing one here in the "states".
Unless you are an Indigenous Tribal person and have the right to have with you or use a Eagle Feather in the practice of your tribal religion/traditions, you can be fined ($10,000 plus) and even jailed for possessing one. So, simply, unless you are in the above category, don't even consider it. On the other hand, if you have a representation of a eagle feather ( ie, artificial/faux ) that's up to whatever cultural rules that apply to you otherwise ( ie, Scottish, Wales, French, Australian, or whatever...).

Just my 2 cents as a traditional native man.....

Hawk

[Spartan Tartan]

Let me add just a tidbit of info here in reference wearing one here in the "states".
Unless you are an Indigenous Tribal person and have the right to have with you or use a Eagle Feather in the practice of your tribal religion/traditions, you can be fined ($10,000 plus) and even jailed for possessing one. So, simply, unless you are in the above category, don't even consider it. On the other hand, if you have a representation of a eagle feather ( ie, artificial/faux ) that's up to whatever cultural rules that apply to you otherwise ( ie, Scottish, Wales, French, Australian, or whatever...).

Just my 2 cents as a traditional native man.....

Hawk

This was an academic exercise if I am not mistaken...not a quest to attain and use an ACTUAL eagle feather... Just MY 2 cents...

[Carlo]

This was an academic exercise if I am not mistaken...not a quest to attain and use an ACTUAL eagle feather... Just MY 2 cents...

Academic exercise it is but I still enjoyed the real world excursion. I never spent a seconds thought on that matter and I'm rather surprised about the amount you could be fined for something you might (if unlikely) find on the street. On the other hand I wonder who would actually spot the difference between an eagle feather and that of another bird of prey? I certainly wouldn't.

[auld argonian]

Let me add just a tidbit of info here in reference wearing one here in the "states".
Unless you are an Indigenous Tribal person and have the right to have with you or use a Eagle Feather in the practice of your tribal religion/traditions, you can be fined ($10,000 plus) and even jailed for possessing one. So, simply, unless you are in the above category, don't even consider it. On the other hand, if you have a representation of a eagle feather ( ie, artificial/faux ) that's up to whatever cultural rules that apply to you otherwise ( ie, Scottish, Wales, French, Australian, or whatever...).

Just my 2 cents as a traditional native man.....

Hawk

While out on a hike last week we found a feather on the ground that may have been an eagle feather. Jokes all around about the legal penalties just for picking it up! My daughter mentioned that even for Tribal Members the DFW policies are stringent and take a very long time to complete....like months and possibly years.

Best

AA

[Harold Cannon]

To answer your question yes you could wear a feather with a clansman crest badge. I will post a scan I have from the Lyon office that covers this subject this evening when I get home.

As to legal feathers.... You can get custom colored eagle feathers from www.realleagalfeathers.com.

They use feathers from birds that are not protected and custom hand color them. I own four of their feathers and they are great.

As to the reason for using real feathers, they make you easy to see so that in battle leaders could be found or in a crowded event you can be seen.

[SorenMacTavish]

Let me add just a tidbit of info here in reference wearing one here in the "states".
Unless you are an Indigenous Tribal person and have the right to have with you or use a Eagle Feather in the practice of your tribal religion/traditions, you can be fined ($10,000 plus) and even jailed for possessing one. So, simply, unless you are in the above category, don't even consider it. On the other hand, if you have a representation of a eagle feather ( ie, artificial/faux ) that's up to whatever cultural rules that apply to you otherwise ( ie, Scottish, Wales, French, Australian, or whatever...).

Just my 2 cents as a traditional native man.....

Hawk

Was planning on broaching this subject matter in regards to woot22's question, but alas, on reading the thread I see you beat me to it Hawk. Thank you for pointing this out. In many countries, ownership and possession of eagle feathers is restricted to aboriginal groups with proof of registry with the local governments.

Better to err on the side of the law than to risk such a hefty fine and or jail time.