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    From what I read, the eagle feather says that the wearer does have his own arms.
    If he wears his own arms/badge why would he nead a feather? The badge would show it.
    On the other hand you might want to be recognisable as a member of a clan and therefore wear the clan badge. At that time it makes sense to wear the feather to show that you would have your own arms.

    Obviously I might be wrong. What I'm saying is, that from my point of view the feather makes more sense when worn with the clan badge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlo View Post
    From what I read, the eagle feather says that the wearer does have his own arms.
    If he wears his own arms/badge why would he nead a feather? The badge would show it.
    On the other hand you might want to be recognisable as a member of a clan and therefore wear the clan badge. At that time it makes sense to wear the feather to show that you would have your own arms.

    Obviously I might be wrong. What I'm saying is, that from my point of view the feather makes more sense when worn with the clan badge.
    Yeah, actually that does make sense putting it that. I always just thought it would seem odd to wear the feather with a clan badge because of the ambiguous nature as to the history of septs and extended families in clans. But when you put it like that I agree it actually makes more sense to wear it with a clan badge.
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    Let me add just a tidbit of info here in reference wearing one here in the "states".
    Unless you are an Indigenous Tribal person and have the right to have with you or use a Eagle Feather in the practice of your tribal religion/traditions, you can be fined ($10,000 plus) and even jailed for possessing one. So, simply, unless you are in the above category, don't even consider it. On the other hand, if you have a representation of a eagle feather ( ie, artificial/faux ) that's up to whatever cultural rules that apply to you otherwise ( ie, Scottish, Wales, French, Australian, or whatever...).

    Just my 2 cents as a traditional native man.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Let me add just a tidbit of info here in reference wearing one here in the "states".
    Unless you are an Indigenous Tribal person and have the right to have with you or use a Eagle Feather in the practice of your tribal religion/traditions, you can be fined ($10,000 plus) and even jailed for possessing one. So, simply, unless you are in the above category, don't even consider it. On the other hand, if you have a representation of a eagle feather ( ie, artificial/faux ) that's up to whatever cultural rules that apply to you otherwise ( ie, Scottish, Wales, French, Australian, or whatever...).

    Just my 2 cents as a traditional native man.....

    Hawk
    This was an academic exercise if I am not mistaken...not a quest to attain and use an ACTUAL eagle feather... Just MY 2 cents...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan Tartan View Post
    This was an academic exercise if I am not mistaken...not a quest to attain and use an ACTUAL eagle feather... Just MY 2 cents...
    Academic exercise it is but I still enjoyed the real world excursion. I never spent a seconds thought on that matter and I'm rather surprised about the amount you could be fined for something you might (if unlikely) find on the street. On the other hand I wonder who would actually spot the difference between an eagle feather and that of another bird of prey? I certainly wouldn't.

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    Even Native Americans are being hassled by the Government over possession of eagle feathers. Stateside its financially risky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlo View Post
    Academic exercise it is but I still enjoyed the real world excursion. I never spent a seconds thought on that matter and I'm rather surprised about the amount you could be fined for something you might (if unlikely) find on the street. On the other hand I wonder who would actually spot the difference between an eagle feather and that of another bird of prey? I certainly wouldn't.
    Finding and using bird of prey feathers in a number of countries is regulated by statute. Always best to check with authorities to get it identified and what the rules are in your locale
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    ...so legal issues aside, COULD someone who merits a single feather wear it with their clan badge or would the wear it with their armiger's badge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Let me add just a tidbit of info here in reference wearing one here in the "states".
    Unless you are an Indigenous Tribal person and have the right to have with you or use a Eagle Feather in the practice of your tribal religion/traditions, you can be fined ($10,000 plus) and even jailed for possessing one. So, simply, unless you are in the above category, don't even consider it. On the other hand, if you have a representation of a eagle feather ( ie, artificial/faux ) that's up to whatever cultural rules that apply to you otherwise ( ie, Scottish, Wales, French, Australian, or whatever...).

    Just my 2 cents as a traditional native man.....

    Hawk
    While out on a hike last week we found a feather on the ground that may have been an eagle feather. Jokes all around about the legal penalties just for picking it up! My daughter mentioned that even for Tribal Members the DFW policies are stringent and take a very long time to complete....like months and possibly years.

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    To answer your question yes you could wear a feather with a clansman crest badge. I will post a scan I have from the Lyon office that covers this subject this evening when I get home.

    As to legal feathers.... You can get custom colored eagle feathers from www.realleagalfeathers.com.

    They use feathers from birds that are not protected and custom hand color them. I own four of their feathers and they are great.

    As to the reason for using real feathers, they make you easy to see so that in battle leaders could be found or in a crowded event you can be seen.
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