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8th February 14, 06:47 AM
#31
 Originally Posted by Stan
I haven't read all the replies to this post, but I have a PC (and waist coat) from Pakistan, and it's a beauty.
I'd like to see it. I've not yet seen a Pakistani made jacket that could pass for a Scottish-made one, to an experienced eye anyhow. Not to say that it's not possible. Even if the tailoring appears normal to the untutored eye (which includes myself because I know nothing about tailoring) the fabric will give its origin away.
I had a charcoal Argyll that I strongly suspect was Pakistani or Indian made. It carried the label of a Scottish firm known to sell sporrans of questionable origin. The cut and fit were OK but the tweed didn't look or feel the same as any British or Irish tweed I'd ever seen.
I'll stick to ex-hire and vintage Scottish-made things of good quality. I just picked up a very nice Lovat Blue tweed Argyll jacket on Ebay, made in Scotland, top-quality tweed, nice tailoring, fits perfectly (size 50L), for around $125.
Last edited by OC Richard; 8th February 14 at 06:48 AM.
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8th February 14, 09:03 AM
#32
Like to see it? Not a problem. Here I am at a pre-Burns night celebration wearing my beautiful PC. All night long I was told how "striking" it was. What do all of YOU of "the rabble" think?
wolf man 3.jpg And here's a second and (maybe) more (at least I consider it to be) flattering photo. DSCN1634.jpg
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8th February 14, 12:41 PM
#33
Thanks, Nathan and TPA. I'm kind of an advocate for standardising the English language across the board so maybe my post was a little off kilter (pardon the unintended pun).
Your clarification certainly was quite helpful.
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8th February 14, 05:03 PM
#34
 Originally Posted by TheOfficialBren
Thanks, Nathan and TPA. I'm kind of an advocate for standardising the English language across the board so maybe my post was a little off kilter (pardon the unintended pun).
Your clarification certainly was quite helpful.
At one point, someone on X Marks attempted to codify the various jackets and doublets- Crail, Sheriffmuir, Montrose, Argyll, etc. Scotty Thompson observed in his book that there was no standard name for most of them and the safest thing remains a picture- they are worth a thousand words, you know. The real problem is, once you learn a name for everything, especially if you are looking on eBay, you will discover that others have a different name for it. For instance, the Spencer* waist (length) coat or jacket or tuxedo might simply be called a short tux or tuxedo jacket. Except when you start looking for "short tux jacket" you will find 40Short, 42 Short, etc. It gets worse when you search for tunics, especially the words kilt and tunic together. And this doesn't even address that other problem- the person who doesn't know what he has or wants to pass it off as something it is not.
Not only did it not happen if there are no pictures, we don't know what it is, anyway if you can't show us.
*I am not sure, but I believe the Spencer is essentially a civilian mess jacket, also called an Eton jacket, bum freezer, etc.
Some take the high road and some take the low road. Who's in the gutter? MacLowlife
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8th February 14, 07:15 PM
#35
for Christmas, i bought for myself one of the navy jacket/vests from this vendor. my wife has a cubic zarconia (sp), which she calls a "stunt ring," that she wears when she does not want to wear/risk losing her wedding band. the items arrived in about 18 days--not bad. the material is light weight wool blend. looks ok but not great, which is what i expected. i intend to use this as a "stunt jacket" when i do not want to risk dirtying up one of my better jackets. compared to my used/ex hire jackets made in scotland--no, this is not great. but for the price and for my intended purpose, it works. for someone starting out kilting but not yet certain they want to invest in the good stuff, these products are serviceable--like getting a usak casual or swk kilt to help you decide whether you want to save up for better gear. plus it is nice to have something to wear that you do not need to worry about mucking up.
but if you have time and patience and are on a budget, ex hire/used gear has mostly worked out well for me.
Last edited by opositive; 8th February 14 at 07:18 PM.
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