Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall visit

**Hawk** · 19th May 14, 11:55 PM

Nathan, thank you so much for the photos, especially of Elder Knockwood. I would be interested in his story, of course, being a Traditionalist of my Indigenous Nation.

Hawk

**McClef** · 20th May 14, 02:48 AM

Lovely pictures.

Just wish to point out that "Lady Camilla" is not a part of Camilla's official title or rank.

**Nathan** · 20th May 14, 03:12 AM

Thank you for the correction, Trefor. My mistake. I seem to recall hearing that on TV at some point. I also heard some speakers refer to "their Royal Highnesses" and others say "His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales and Her Grace the Duchess of Cornwall". Are both correct or did someone err in their styles of address?

**Nathan** · 20th May 14, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by Hawk

Nathan, thank you so much for the photos, especially of Elder Knockwood. I would be interested in his story, of course, being a Traditionalist of my Indigenous Nation.

Hawk

I too would like to know more about Elder Knockwood. I know that he is a respected Elder from Shubenacadie First Nations and I've seen him quoted in the news media on issues of relevance to the Mi'kmaq community for many years. Here are some bio notes from various organizations with which he is involved. If you Google him, there is plenty to read.

http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Doug-Knockwood/1186985662

http://www.dodemkanonhsa.ca/elders/knockwood_doug.htm

Neither of these links explain the Tam O'Shanter directly although they do mention military service.

**creagdhubh** · 20th May 14, 05:19 AM

Thank you for sharing the photos.

**McClef** · 20th May 14, 05:29 AM

Nathan, the correct styling is Her Royal Highness for both Cornwall and Rothesay titles as these are Royal Duchies and she takes her rank from her husband.

Non royal Duchesses are correctly styled "Her Grace".

Some confusion possibly comes from the late Princess Diana. As the daughter of an Earl she was correctly styled Lady Diana Spencer before her marriage. Camilla was simply Miss Shand then Mrs Parker-Bowles before her marriage to Charles. The title Lady is different from the the word Lady as applied to a female.

It can be confusing I know!

**tulloch** · 20th May 14, 06:41 AM

He's not wearing a kilt! Awww. He does that so well.

**McMurdo** · 21st May 14, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by tulloch

He's not wearing a kilt! Awww. He does that so well.

Prince Charles tends to wear the kilt in Scotland only and I may add only in the highlands.

**JohntheBiker** · 21st May 14, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by McMurdo

Prince Charles tends to wear the kilt in Scotland only and I may add only in the highlands.

The only possible exception to this in Canada would be the Prince in uniform as Colonel-in-Chief of the Black Watch Regiment of Canada. I think that there are photos of him on this site reviewing the troops, kilted and in uniform.

**Nathan** · 20th May 14, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by McClef

Nathan, the correct styling is Her Royal Highness for both Cornwall and Rothesay titles as these are Royal Duchies and she takes her rank from her husband.

Non royal Duchesses are correctly styled "Her Grace".

Some confusion possibly comes from the late Princess Diana. As the daughter of an Earl she was correctly styled Lady Diana Spencer before her marriage. Camilla was simply Miss Shand then Mrs Parker-Bowles before her marriage to Charles. The title Lady is different from the the word Lady as applied to a female.

It can be confusing I know!

Thanks for the information Trefor,

I did know the title of Lady and the word lady were different but I'm fuzzy about who exactly gets to use it. I knew it applied to the wife of a Lord and by extension his mother who would have been married to his father the Lord and his daughters. Admittedly, I don't know how Dukes, Arch Dukes (If there is such a thing in Britain), Earls, Viscounts, Barons etc...work exactly. What makes an Earldom different from a Duchy? Which is more impressive? You don't actually have to answer as I can Google it I suppose.

I can't speak for the education system in every province but we didn't learn the various aristocratic titles and honourifics in school. As a commonwealth country, we pick some of it up by osmosis when Royals visit and through the media etc...

I did learn the honourifics for politicians and dignitaries in Canada as those are needed much more regularly in my life.

I'm picking it up from being on xmarks, but as I'm not rushing out for a copy of Debrett's this week, I appreciate the free education and stand corrected.

We don't have Duchies in Canada but until recently we did have Dutchies. Some were sad to see the end of them.