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5th November 14, 09:22 PM
#41
Rocky, I would watch your show.
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5th November 14, 10:49 PM
#42
 Originally Posted by HixwithanX
I, for one, am proud to hail from both a nation and a state capable of producing men the likes of Phil Robertson.
Throughout history and indeed in many countries today, it was/is nearly impossible for those born to the common or “peasant” class/caste to ever amount to anything beyond commoner or peasant. Fairly recently, a few nations have evolved social orders that allow hard-working, determined and passionate men and women to rise above the conditions of their birth. While I myself have largely squandered the gift of opportunity offered by one such social order, I remain nonetheless proud and fortunate to have been birthed in just such a nation.
I beg readers to consider the following:
- Phil Robertson's story is one of Rags-to-Riches. Through determination and a strong work ethic he was able to turn his passion into a multimillion dollar enterprise that employs dozens (and indirectly, hundreds!) of people that is now run by one of his sons. It is my earnest wish that ALL such passionate and determined people could do the same! Even kilt-makers!
- Phil's story is one of personal redemption. While I profess no particular faith, reason requires me to admit that a little religion is good for some people. Mr. Robertson began his life in a way all to similar to a great many from this part of the world: he was a hard drinking, hard drugging and hard loving young man destined to a life of destitution, incarceration, self-destruction and an early grave. However, through his Christian faith, he was able to find his way out of the dark and into the light and is today a highly respected pillar of his community. Far from a source of embarrassment, he is in my opinion a man to be admired.
While I certainly disagree with many of his opinions, I hope (pray?) that I live long enough to become even half the man that he is.
Finally, if you have never seen the show, I respectfully request that you either temper your opinions or withhold them altogether until after having done so. Should you despise it/them anyway, then so be it. At least, you'll be able to speak with some authority on the subject! I further understand that many of you cannot do this.
With respect and apologies to those offended, someone had to "step up" in defense of these people, even if some of you still hate the TV show! Who better for this unenviable task than another "Bayou Boy?"
Regards,
Well said HixwithanX, most people do not know that they had a multi-million dollar company long before their TV series Or that they are very well educated. I can remember them when all they were selling were game calls and hunting videos. It seems those business and marketing degrees are paying off.
I have no doubt that the scotland episode will be entertaining for me but I do think some people may be put off a bit. If you step back and look at the Robertsons, they do espouse the most scottish principles of Faith, Family, Country and Community.
I can't wait to record it and send it to my son-in-law in Edinburgh he wasn't sure what to make of them when he saw a episode last year, heck, he wasn't sure what to make of me (look at my icon). I keep telling him that he still owes the obligatory pre-nuptial deer hunting trip and that I am going to go "Full Bubba" on him.
All-in-all, the wonder of life is in the difference and not the sameness. It make things just plain interesting.
I write this after having just had dinner in China-town, San Francisco. I am sure I stood out, but I still had a great time. This Tennessee boy is a long ways from home.
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5th November 14, 11:44 PM
#43
 Originally Posted by Kanati
they do espouse the most scottish principles of Faith, Family, Country and Community.
You need to spend more time in Scotland. The kirk is in terminal decline (http://www.scotsman.com/news/politic...live-1-3391152) and the typical modern Scottish idea of family isn't the same as it was when your ancestors emigrated: Scotland has the highest rate of unmarried mothers giving birth in Europe (http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/stati...ouseholds.html), also UK marriage rate is less than the US (which is quite high compared to the OECD average) (http://www.oecd.org/els/family/SF3_1...te_Jan2014.pdf). I'll avoid commenting on the Scottish principle of "country" due to the board rules about the referendum.
Last edited by bwat; 6th November 14 at 12:11 AM.
Reason: Europe =/= OECD
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6th November 14, 06:03 AM
#44
 Originally Posted by kiltedchef
Rocky, I would watch your show.
Sadly, it was not meant to be. Perhaps a good thing.
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6th November 14, 06:14 AM
#45
Too bad they didn't bother to pay for some proper kilts in Robertson tartan. They can afford it.
Natan Easbaig Mac Dhòmhnaill, FSA Scot
Past High Commissioner, Clan Donald Canada
“Yet still the blood is strong, the heart is Highland, And we, in dreams, behold the Hebrides.” - The Canadian Boat Song.
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6th November 14, 07:08 PM
#46
As I look at my original post, it appears I never stated my opinion clearly.
Their show: Painfully scripted, over (and under) acted and poorly executed.
Their real life moral values: 90% right on.
The bayou-bumpkin image displayed by them in the show, isn't exactly the greatest thing, yeah. Aside from that, they're sound people like you and me, who have high moral standards for themselves and their children.
I say, no blame should be to them, as they are obviously not "Scottish culture enthusiasts" as are we; but merely, business owners who happen to have their own show on the telly. If anyone is to be accused for the misrepresentation of Scottish culture, it's A&E. They're the ones who write the show! That's my take, anyway.
~Live Long and Piobaireachd~
Jordan "Grip" Langehennig
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9th November 14, 08:16 PM
#47
 Originally Posted by bwat
I did not say church, I said principles. I do not view principles as being exclusive to only religion.
I agree there is a general decline in moral behavior from "my viewpoint". Of course my viewpoint is always a little different than most everyone else.
btw: I spoke with my daughter and son-in-law in Edinburgh tonight and they said that the Robertson's had already been there and nobody really noticed.
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9th November 14, 11:56 PM
#48
 Originally Posted by Kanati
I did not say church, I said principles. I do not view principles as being exclusive to only religion.
I equated your use of "faith" with the kirk. If I've assumed too much then it's just a case of me answering the post I wish you'd made instead of the one you actually did. Any anger/frustration/confusion/exhasperation caused was unintentional and I apologise for it.
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14th November 14, 10:34 AM
#49
Ugghh Well normally I would say something about a Robertson not wearing a GUNN kilt but in this case let the Stewart's have him
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14th November 14, 01:14 PM
#50
 Originally Posted by ljamieson
Ugghh Well normally I would say something about a Robertson not wearing a GUNN kilt but in this case let the Stewart's have him 
Why would a Robertson wear Gunn tartan?
Steve.
"We, the kilted ones, are ahead of the curve" - Bren.
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