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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Well alright you made your point. Just so you know and I hope I don't sound a bore, but a black bow tie is not worn with a morning suit. A drop down tie is the norm , or perhaps some may choose an "Ascot" style cravat for a wedding. Also for informations sake, if attending a day wedding(as we do I think, almost exclusively in the UK) and should we be wearing a morning suit, or kilt equivalent, it is then perfectly acceptable to carry on wearing the same outfit into the evening should festivities continue on into the night.
    Jock Scot, to be honest I was going to feel a bit left out had I not received any hint of a reply from you sir. I always enjoy your well informed and sometime humorous responses accompanied with the knowledge you impart. As I took on this project, creating a Victorian look from the wool fabric to finished product, I did spend time on the Gentleman's web sites that spoke of proper black tie attire. I had no desire to spend the time sewing together a modern day tux or formal jacket that would only see closet time so I chose the Victorian era. Even that era presented some options that would have had one use only. The rules of proper attire run deep and long, as I found out in my reading, so I gleaned what I could. You have to realize and accept that my closet is full of tweed jackets, wool breeks, kilts, climbing clothing and a pair or two of jeans. That in itself doesn't qualify me much for the black tie attempt. I found many quite interesting fact such as not wearing my wing tips and opting for a nice polished plain black shoe. Also research on my jacket pattern justified the use of faux cuffs when I was thinking of making a more traditional button cuff. It was all very interesting reading chocked full of do's and don'ts that at times left my head spinning.

    What I am trying to say is I did the best I could to make my tweed self presentable. This event was an 1800 hour wedding so it was an appropriate jacket to wear. I did not know about the bow tie, I wore it because most tux wearers would be wearing one. I have patterns for ascots that I will make in time. The wedding was attended by men in everything from shirt sleeves and ties, suit jackets and ties, tuxedo jackets and bow ties and the groom and his grooms men in ill fitting modern regency style tails. We all proceeded from the church wedding to the reception which did not allow Jennifer and me a chance to change. Hence we wore what we would have to wear to the reception. I must say that dress at the reception deteriorated quite fast and I was of the few that remained with coat and tie most of the evening.

    For me it was a great experience exploring and researching my outfit, though not totally correct, then learning new tailoring techniques to make it. To hear a bit of information from you good sir just adds to my knowledge of how I will dress next time. Your input is by far not a bore but knowledge gathered from your many years of good dressing.

    I find good dressing habits are being lost and to be occasionally reminded, or have to dress the occasion, helps keep the habits alive. As I mentioned the groom and his men were at best sloppily dressed with ill fitting white vests and even worse fitting jackets. Even the rental shops don't seem to take pride in ones look any more. In time I will find another day event to wear this outfit and will have a drop down tie or ascot to accompany it. In the mean time I hope for it not to only see closet time. Many thanks everyone for your input, many thanks to you Jock Scot for your knowledge.
    "Greater understanding properly leads to an increasing sense of responsibility, and not to arrogance."

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