Historians: please comment / correct

**neloon** · 7th March 18, 05:01 AM

I completely agree with Jock.
What he is not confessing is that MacLeod means "son of Ljot".
And ljot is Norse for "the ugly one"

Alan

**Jock Scot** · 7th March 18, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by neloon

I completely agree with Jock.
What he is not confessing is that MacLeod means "son of Ljot".
And ljot is Norse for "the ugly one"

Alan

Just what can I say?

**MacKenzie** · 8th March 18, 08:19 AM

An interesting read. Thanks FB.

**neloon** · 8th March 18, 11:45 AM

Since we're speaking about the Scottish islands (well, sort of), and since we're sometimes asked about "where to go" in Scotland, I thought you might like to contemplate air travel around the islands by Loganair, "Scotland's National Airline". Small planes if you like that sort of thing and with a high preponderance of lady pilots.

(Well, there's not much room in those cockpits.

)
Here's the scheduled flight that goes Kirkwall-Stronsay-Sanday-Kirkwall. I think the safety instructions are "If you think we're going to crash, open the door and jump out".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kA3z1YdJ4o
Takeoff from Kirkwall, the capital of the Orkney. Fairly informal - find a bit of clear runway and go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvbwYBA5f5M
Same lassie doing the shortest commercial flight in the world. Actual flight is about 2 minutes depending on wind speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdSi_oA38d0
This is why airfields are called airfields. The bumps help the plane to get airborne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsxXz-cVpWg
'Course you need a bigger plane to go from Glasgow up to Kirkwall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu9QQgrGjZY
Or you could just take a "day trip" from Glasgow out to Barra. If you think it looks cold on Barra, note that the date is 28th December. Barra is the only place in the world where the runway for scheduled flights is ....the beach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL0-FAJey8E
Here's a wee Twin Otter leaving Benbecula
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6idNBOYS_A

How to "get away from it all"? Of course, it's not cheap!

Alan

**Father Bill** · 8th March 18, 01:34 PM

Love it Alan - thanks. You've done a good bit o' work to put that post together.

Cheers.

**Liam** · 8th March 18, 02:01 PM

I particularly like the clips of the twin otters. Great plane. The sound of the engines at takeoff brought back many memories. I’m still amazed at how short a runway is needed for takeoff.

**Steve Ashton** · 8th March 18, 02:20 PM

I have always wanted to visit the Shetlands so did a little research.

One islands website says that the original celebration was called "Barrelling" or "Tar Barrelling" where groups of youths would haul burning barrels of tar through the streets. The website suggests that this was looked down upon and finally banned around 1880.

The current torch parade which is one of the parts of Up Helly Aa seems to date to 1881 with a larger one for the visit of Duke of Edinburgh in 1882.
It seems that the first galley burning dates to around 1889.

Here is another site - https://www.shetland.org/things/even...ge/up-helly-aa

**LKM** · 9th March 18, 07:52 AM

As a fan of history I have studied some and I find that there is far less known about history then expected. This has led to archaeological finds rewriting the history books quite often.

An interesting article. I find that it is good to see history articles from different perspectives.

While it is known that there was Scandinavian influence in the British Isles by the 5th century, there are few clues about when it started or how it progressed over time. It is often though that the age of Vikings started in the 8th century with an attack on English monks, yet this is also debated as Saint Patrick is said to have kidnapped by vikings in the late 4th century.

Was the early Scandinavian influence trade that Rome interrupted in the south and continued in the north? Was it a land grab due to either a population boom or unwanted immigration in Scandinavia? These are perhaps the most common theories I have read. The main issue is the lack of records as most of the information is in stories and songs that were written down centuries later.

Over time, how much did the Scandinavian settlers in Scotland take on native Pictish culture? Did they force Scandinavian culture on the Picts? These are also debated, yet there is a good chance that both happened in different places and times.

**The Q** · 9th March 18, 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by neloon

Since we're speaking about the Scottish islands (well, sort of), and since we're sometimes asked about "where to go" in Scotland, I thought you might like to contemplate air travel around the islands by Loganair, "Scotland's National Airline".
Here's a wee Twin Otter leaving Benbecula
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6idNBOYS_A

How to "get away from it all"? Of course, it's not cheap!

Alan

Nice to see my Old place of work flash past, by the Runway on BenBec, used to see the Brittain Norman Islanders, on the pan on Benbec. Just outside my Barrack room window when I was trying to sleep...

Logie baird tend to get round a bit these days. They've now gone into Code sharing with British Airways, So we get Loganair in Norwich. When the were with Flybe they were Flybe painted.